What Do You Think About Sodium Benzoate? kina promising...

[Überpolarbear]

I was just researching while I'm sooo out of options.

While researching about the health effects of cinnamon (yes cinnamon) I accidentally came across "Sodium benzoate" which happens to reduce the symptoms of Schizophrenia at a hefty 21%!

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/24089054

Sodium benzoate seems to reduce microglia activation. Which I have no Idea about, but I have read many MANY times that that schizophrenia is all about microglia activation so it sounds all good to me: http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC2862570/

 

According to wikipedia, this sodium benzoate stuff is "rather" safe ("....The International Programme on Chemical Safety found no adverse effects in humans at doses of 647–825 mg/kg of body weight per day..... Yada yada) so I don't think I'd die from taking the 1gr/day dose they gave to the schizophrenics in the trial above.

Maybe I'll give it a try. It's cheap.

I think sodium benzoate will end up like glycine which is safe and effective but no one gives a s*** about but at least you don't have to take three heeping tablespoons of it. and it's even cheaper than glycine.

what do you think? should I try it? I mean I'm figuratively dead already.

[Wooster]

Seems like a really great thing to talk over with your prescriber to make sure it's not going to interact badly or fuck up the meds you're taking already.

Something to consider is sodium benzoate + vitamin C = benzene (cool fact from science class), which is a known cancer causing agent in humans.

[Überpolarbear]

good point about talking to my prescriber...

on the other hand.....

Do you really expect my prescriber, who doesn't know that chlorpromazine is sedating because it blocks norepinephrine receptors and believes that all antipsychotics just block dopamine receptors, to help me with this or know about the newest research, or the interaction of a random chemical with my current medication?

I don't live in the US. I don't pay to go to docs. that's true. but on the other hand, if I call today I get an appointment in 2 months, I wait for 2 hours, I get to talk for 7 minutes and the doc knows less than a high school drop out Aspie who is interested in medical science. So I'm basically screwed. I must say that this situation may not be true for german docs in other fields. but for psychiatry and psychopharmacology, it's this way. the sergeons are good though. they cut you up right away.

Edited November 15, 2015 by Überpolarbear

[Wooster]

"I get to talk for 7 minutes and the doc knows less than a high school drop out Aspie who is interested in medical science. "

Um... there are lots of Aspie/Autie folks on the boards here. Perhaps you would care to rephrase?

[Gearhead]

I strongly advise you to apologize while you're rephrasing.

[Überpolarbear]

I strongly apologize. I lost my nerves over German docs. I respect Aspies a lot and they often know more than most people who are f-ing supposed to know things. that's what I meant.

If the people who are supposed to treat me in the past 14 years did their job well shit like this wouldn't happen. blame brain atrophy.

Edited November 16, 2015 by Überpolarbear

[Überpolarbear]

Wikipedia:

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Concentration as a preservative is limited by the FDA in the U.S. to 0.1% by weight.

Lets say I get 1 liter or kilo (both make 1000gr). whatever of a food or beverage etc. with Sodium Benzoate as preservative and eat / drink it. That would be 1 gr. sodium benzoate. Right?!?!? 0.1% of 1000 = 1 right?

I do not mean that I'm going to dring eat lots of soft drink/sauerkraut etc. I'm just trying to figure out whether this sodium Benzoate stuff is a benign thing we are eating unknowingly all the time in great proportions or not. Note: they gave 1 gr. per day to the patients in that study. not more.

Edited November 16, 2015 by Überpolarbear

[crtclms]

We're not the FDA.

[Überpolarbear]

On 11/19/2015, 7:17:21, crtclms said:

We're not the FDA.

Oh I got it. We shall not talk about absolutely legal substances. And first and foremost, Math is forbidden. People from FDA have superhuman (alien?) brains and superpowers we do not have and we are not entitled to try to think like them ( not even speculating, theorizing, phantasizin, or alike) or our brains would explode or they would come and "get us". Right?

At least you can quote FDA. Instead of figuratively telling me to stop talking. There IS a RDA for Sodium Benzoate. I just dont care anymore for this thread to post.

Edited November 23, 2015 by Überpolarbear

[jt07]

15 minutes ago, Überpolarbear said:

... or our brains would explode or they would come and "get us". Right?

You never know ....

[crtclms]

.1 percent of 1000 is 100. Simple arithmetic.

[Wooster]

*cough*

crt, actually, it is 1, as 0.1% = 0.001 times 1000 = 1