Klonopin with Xanax

[IcePrincess88]

Basic question, will I die if I combine Xanax and Klonopin? I'm having a breakdown right now and 3mgs of Klonopin hasn't touched it. I have "in case of emergency" Xanax for a time like this. God knows I need it. Is it safe?

[jt07]

Well then if your doctor prescribed Xanax in case of an emergency, I guess it's safe.

[IcePrincess88]

I WAS on Xanax. I just kept some in case I ran into a time like this when Klonopin isn't doing it. Or maybe I should just take more Klonopin. I dunno. I just need something

[jt07]

We can't practice medicine and tell you what to do. Sorry about that. Better to call your doctor or pharmacist.

[jt07]

I can say that I think you'll be ok, but that is just a thought of a nut on the internet. As I said earlier, call your doctor or pharmacist. What are you going to do if 2 different benzos including one you are no longer prescribed show up on a drug screen?

[melissaw72]

9 hours ago, IcePrincess88 said:

Basic question, will I die if I combine Xanax and Klonopin? I'm having a breakdown right now and 3mgs of Klonopin hasn't touched it. I have "in case of emergency" Xanax for a time like this. God knows I need it. Is it safe?

Personally I think you will be ok, at safe doses of each at the same time.  I am currently on both xanax and klonopin, for years, and I have have never had any problems.  I take klonopin as maintenance, and xanax as needed. 

Klonopin I take 0.5 mg twice a day, and up to 1 mg of xanax a day as needed (although I was on up to 3 mg /day, but had to go down on the dose because of the insurance company wouldn't approve that dose; if insurance would have covered it I would still be on 3 mg/day as needed.

[uncomfortable thoughts]

I know the feeling of keeping some meds to feel safe.

Since I registered here I stumbled on some of your topics or remarks of your 'beloved xanax'

I think you wil not die on this combo but as jt07 stated bellow, you're already in multiple CNS depressants. 

My advice.

On self medication, maybe you need to work this out with pdoc so at least you never run out of safety or xanax, maybe you could make a diary of why you used, how much you used between appointments.

Maybe this way you can have a prescription of it for your problems, just feel relief of having it around, adjust the klonopin or find something else.

From my experience on klonopin and something close to GAD I had to take it 6mg a day divided on steady three times.

For what I'm seeing it's is a global tendency of overly prescribing mid-mild to long-mild acting benzo and marginalizing everything in between for the safety of the medical practice and why not, patients.

On usage of Klonopin, from my experience, it worked better as maintenance.

It's hard to expect something to happen soon popping more of those. At least for me it takes two hours to start working,

Maybe finding the right dosage would be something useful and knowing how it works the best for you, in my case or it will work taking everyday at same time on a proper dose or doing an anticipating PRN.

The anticipation using PRN works this way:

I have a meeting and I'm rusty on doing presentation and just the thought of it is making me already nervous, so it's better for me taking it before.  

So, if you know something that would be a potential threat to your anxiety maybe taking it before would save you from having an episode.

I hope this helps and it isn't rude or something.

Klonopin/Rivotril/Clonazepam (same thing) isn't a bad drug, if you find the spot maybe you can sustain a very low anxiety level trough the day.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 27, 2016 by uncomfortable thoughts

[jt07]

3 hours ago, uncomfortable thoughts said:

You wil not die on this combo, as meliissaw72 stated 

The problem with stating this as an absolute is that the OP is on quite a few meds including narcotics. Adding more benzos and mixing benzos is dangerous, especially when taking other meds that depress the CNS. Only her doctor and pharmacist who know all the meds she is taking and understand the risks are competent to make this call.

Edited April 27, 2016 by jt07

[uncomfortable thoughts]

6 minutes ago, jt07 said:

The problem with stating this as an absolute is that the OP is on quite a few meds including narcotics. Adding more benzos and mixing benzos is dangerous, especially when taking other meds that depress the CNS. Only her doctor and pharmacist who know all the meds she is taking and understands the risks are competent to make this call.

You're right.

I considered about that but the OP has a quite elevated tolerance on those narcotics.

I'll change to "I think" you will not die.

But as the post goes on I developed something that goes toward professional help.

Thanks for correcting me, I'm not indulging or encouraging self medication.

Edited April 27, 2016 by uncomfortable thoughts

[melissaw72]

7 hours ago, jt07 said:

The problem with stating this as an absolute is that the OP is on quite a few meds including narcotics. Adding more benzos and mixing benzos is dangerous, especially when taking other meds that depress the CNS. Only her doctor and pharmacist who know all the meds she is taking and understand the risks are competent to make this call.

I never said that as an absolute.  I was referring to my PERSONAL opinion only, but even then I did NOT say it as an absolute (see my post below that I wrote):

If you can find in the following post where I said those words as an absolute (or what words I wrote where it looks where I meant that), please tell me where in my post I said that ... Here is the post I wrote:

13 hours ago, melissaw72 said:

Personally I think you will be ok, at safe doses of each at the same time.  I am currently on both xanax and klonopin, for years, and I have have never had any problems.  I take klonopin as maintenance, and xanax as needed. 

Klonopin I take 0.5 mg twice a day, and up to 1 mg of xanax a day as needed (although I was on up to 3 mg /day, but had to go down on the dose because of the insurance company wouldn't approve that dose; if insurance would have covered it I would still be on 3 mg/day as needed.

I can't find where I said anything like that.  I am aware of meds the OP is on.  And I was not about to give advice to OP, as I know it isn't allowed on the board.

I don't know where UncomfortableThoughts found that absolute conclusion in my post, but as you can see in above post, I didn't write it.

[uncomfortable thoughts]

1 hour ago, melissaw72 said:

I don't know where UncomfortableThoughts found that absolute conclusion in my post, but as you can see in above post, I didn't write it.

I didn't find anything absolute on your post and I guess jt07 was referring to me.

I said that she wasn't going to die as I was sure about that, but I can't be sure about that.

[snarkygirl]

Not trying to butt in but I think I see a communication thing. It's kinda in how you read this.

Either: you will not die on this combo, as Melissa stated. Then, reading it as saying Melissa stated this to be fact.

Or

You will not die on this combo, as Melissa stated. As in, I concur with her opinion.

I think you guys might be reading it differently. Just from my point of view and trying to help.

 

[jt07]

I did not reference Melissa at all, and I just wanted to point out why absolute statements are dangerous. Not trying to jump down anyone's throat. Just want us all to be careful especially when we don't know a patient's history or know that they are on multiple CNS depressants. 

[melissaw72]

3 hours ago, snarkygirl said:

Not trying to butt in but I think I see a communication thing. It's kinda in how you read this.

Either: you will not die on this combo, as Melissa stated. Then, reading it as saying Melissa stated this to be fact.

Or

You will not die on this combo, as Melissa stated. As in, I concur with her opinion.

I think you guys might be reading it differently. Just from my point of view and trying to help.

 

In both statements though (above) 1.  I never stated (in bold #1) it to be a fact ... and  2. "You will not die on this combo" (in bold #2) ... was never my opinion (wrong) ... Either way is a wrong interpretation .. never said anything about "not dying" as a general statement when referring to anything I said.

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That is all, I will end here.

[snarkygirl]

Okay. I'm just reading it as agreeing with Melissa first previous post giving advice that it wasn't necessarily harmful and then it was said as in agreement with Melissa like that, maybe not in the best way, if that makes sense?

UnComfortablethoughts was quoting their own post when using that line, but implying Melissa agreed with the context making that general thought based off the earlier post where Melissa gave some input on benzos is how I read that. I think uncomfortablethoughts simply thought you two were on a similar page. Not that you actually said an absolute.

Anyway. Confusing. This is all my best guess. Uncomfortablethoughts really knows.

[melissaw72]

1 hour ago, snarkygirl said:

Okay. I'm just reading it as agreeing with Melissa first previous post giving advice that it wasn't necessarily harmful and then it was said as in agreement with Melissa like that, maybe not in the best way, if that makes sense?

UnComfortablethoughts was quoting their own post when using that line, but implying Melissa agreed with the context making that general thought based off the earlier post where Melissa gave some input on benzos is how I read that. I think uncomfortablethoughts simply thought you two were on a similar page. Not that you actually said an absolute.

Anyway. Confusing. This is all my best guess. Uncomfortablethoughts really knows.

Yes, UT quoted himself, then put in that quote something I never wrote in my post, making is as if I really did say that, when I didn't.

[notfred]

Death from benzos is always in the company of other meds, like narcotics. Benzos have a very high LD50 so it would require more pills than a person would be able to take. After all that is why they were invented, to replace the current tranquilizers which were very deadly in smaller amounts. I've taken 2 different benzos before as prescribed by my doctor. One to take everyday and one for breakthrough depression.

[jt07]

13 minutes ago, notloki said:

Death from benzos is always in the company of other meds, like narcotics. Benzos have a very high LD50 so it would require more pills than a person would be able to take. After all that is why they were invented, to replace the current tranquilizers which were very deadly in smaller amounts. I've taken 2 different benzos before as prescribed by my doctor. One to take everyday and one for breakthrough depression.

The whole issue in this thread and what makes it dangerous to say that taking an extra benzo is safe is because the OP is taking narcotics.

[notfred]

Thanks but that is not what i am reading.

[jt07]

5 minutes ago, notloki said:

Thanks but that is not what i am reading.

I don't care what you think you are reading, that is nevertheless the issue in this thread.

[notfred]

Then will have to agree to disagree.

[Sloane]

notloki, are you using CB on mobile? If so I understand why you didn't see anything about narcotics. If not, you can see her current Rx list in her signature which includes 2 narcotics.

Taking any medications that your doctor is unaware of can be dangerous in a multitude of ways. Whether those interactions occur or not is not the only relevance, it's the fact that the possibility is there and we just don't have enough information on the people we talk to on the internet to encourage or discourage taking medications.

[notfred]

In established pain patients narcotics and benzo combos are common. It is in overdose that it is a bad idea. So some norco +  buprenorphine +benzos is not a shocking combo. As long as your stay within the limits of what the doctor ordered

 

She DID NOT have a sig up when I posted..

[crtclms]

She's had that signature for at least months.

[IcePrincess88]

15 hours ago, crtclms said:

She's had that signature for at least months.

I have in fact had this signature for months