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Hi to all as u know im bipolar and have also ocd and a very active member of this magnificent forum...i have been wondering did the fact that i was virgin and shy till the age of 22 led to bipolarity... ive been in colege with dorms and i started acting really weird too provocative behavior ive been trying to conversate with any girls that i see on colege that i started smoking weeds another day i was walkin the college with racing thoughts and thought that im god messenger... the next few days i remmember having a crazy rage fit with racing thougts and burning a table in my balcony that i went to a hottel and called escort service is this considered mania??? Btw my grand father uncle and cousin are all bipolar so is it genetics that led to bipolar or the fact that i was virgin?? Peace to all of u.

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so is it genetics that led to bipolar or the fact that i was virgin?? Peace to all of u.

I don't have a definite answer for you, but just wanted to say IMO that I believe that genetics do not have much to do with developing a MI, however most people on this site think it could be.

Personally I have no people in my family on both sides (going back many decades), who have ever had a MI.  I am the first one to have a MI in my family. So there were no genetics that played a role with me.

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I suspect that you have the causality backward: you started acting weird in small measures as an episode came on, and then you just got weirder and weirder, because your bipolar was about to land in three...two..one...pow!

Because virginity does not induce bipolar disorder. It just doesn't. Hypersexuality can be a symptom of mania-that's where your sex drive suddenly ratchets up to High, which might make you feel as if not getting any was making you crazy.

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I agree with Gearhead. 

The early-to-mid twenties are a pretty average age of diagnosis for bipolar.  Plus, the stress and newness of college can often make symptoms more apparent or lead to an episode.

Most colleges have great on-campus resources (counseling, wellness programs, psychiatry) or can offer referrals.  It might be worth checking out.

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6 hours ago, bigbangaz said:

Btw my grand father uncle and cousin are all bipolar so is it genetics that led to bipolar or the fact that i was virgin??

Genetics.

There is no mechanism of action where virginity could possibly cause bipolar disorder. That idea is way out there.

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Nope.  Sorry to say it, but I have a very hard time believing that a neurochemical difference like bipolar could be caused by being a late virgin.  Genetics are more likely as a cause, but that isn't proven either.  Also, the experience you had sounds like classic mania.  While I can't formally diagnose, as someone that's taken psychology classes and also as someone who was manic briefly myself, I can say that what you experienced almost certainly was mania IMO.  It also sounds like some of the things you did could have gotten you into dangerous situations (e.g. sleeping with the escort, raging, and burning the table).  Given the risky nature of the episode you describe here, I'd encourage you to seek out a competent therapist asap.   

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If virginity in the early-20s male population were a predominant cause of bipolar, we'd be facing an epidemic of manic youth in the streets.

Although, as Steve223 points out, exact genetic markers have not yet been isolated, the incidence of bipolar is demonstrably higher in individuals with direct-line relatives (parents, siblings) who also have bipolar. This points strongly to inheritance.

If you're looking for an explanation for why you've suddenly begun doing bizarre things you haven't done before, consider that lunacy begets lunacy - a touch of mania and perhaps a soupçon of hypersexuality leads to indiscriminate approaches to young women whose understandable rebuffs (you being slightly woo-hoo at the time) inspire anxiety that spurs you to an infrequent (if not novel) experience smoking pot, which imparts upon your mind an entire universe of delusions, furies, spastic loss of time, and irresponsible use of flammable materials. (It is unclear from your account whether summoning the "escort service" was an attempt to stave off your bipolar by "curing your virginity" or was simply used to escort you home.)

Further proof that all was not as you surmised might be your sense that you were God's messenger. Prophets are most often heralded in some way that the public can generally recognize as legitimate - for instance, a burning bush, peculiarities in the heavens, performance of miracles, that sort of thing. Burning tables, raging in tongues and/or semi-nonsense, or stumbling out of a haze of pungent blue smoke do not carry the requisite gravitas. Therefore, if several of the conclusions you may have drawn about your recent experience prove untenable, it may be necessary to question the validity of your virginity-causes-bipolar hypothesis also.

Because, well... that's crazy talk.

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im really confused because i dont remmber problem with sleep i slept something like 6-7 hours everyday there but i was actiong too provocative so im really confused about all the bipolarity because i wasnt even depressed the depression started when i was prescribed only zyprexa 5mg and refused to take anti depressant for the depression.im kinda nervous at psychatrists ive been diagnosed too much::bipolar was first diagnosis than shcizotypal then schizophrenic than schizoaffective than bipolar again im so nervous right now that i might explose

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There is overlap in mental illnesses, and sometimes the exact diagnose can be hard to bang out. It's nice to have a diagnosis, but what's more important is that your symptoms are being controlled. Which it doesn't seem it they are, yet. You should tell your pdoc about your reaction to zyprexa; there are so many meds to try that one's not working is far from a catastrophe. If you are unable to function, you should leave a message with your pdoc today or tomorrow.

Why won't you take an anti-depressant? Some people who respond really well to lithium don't need a drug cocktail, but you may need to take more than one med at a time. If you look at people's signatures, the majority of them are on more than one med. It's common to take an atypical anti-psychotic with an antidepressant, AND a mood stabilizer!

Welcome to the wonderful world of crazy.

 

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1 hour ago, bigbangaz said:

im really confused because i dont remmber problem with sleep i slept something like 6-7 hours everyday there but i was actiong too provocative so im really confused about all the bipolarity because i wasnt even depressed the depression started when i was prescribed only zyprexa 5mg and refused to take anti depressant for the depression.im kinda nervous at psychatrists ive been diagnosed too much::bipolar was first diagnosis than shcizotypal then schizophrenic than schizoaffective than bipolar again im so nervous right now that i might explose

Treatment is more important than diagnosis, and many treatments work for multiple MIs (for example, antipsychotics can be used for psychosis, bipolar, AND depression. Also for OCD.). As far as bipolar goes, some people have more of a problem with mania and others have more of a problem with depression and for some it's 50-50. You might be one whose problem is mostly mania, but only your doctor is qualified to tell you for sure.

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Yeah but it seems odd to me that i ve slept the normal amount of hours not less than 7 hours i think. it happened when i was 22 now im 28 changed my meds to geodon and zoloft...do u have to sleep less than 4 hours to be considered manic.. and all those events didnt happen the same day it lasted a semester the odd behaviour impulsivity rage frustration restlessness and problem concentrating on theoric matters only on numbers cause im good with numbers....

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one more question does geodon induce hypomania in non bipolar users because i tend to have few hours of hypomania from time to time and i wanna know if it does realted to the fact that i might be bipolar and i sleep 4 hours and feel rested.... when i was at the college i think i had a normal sleep meaning at least 7 to 8 hours so im really confused if i might be bipolar or not...i know that i have ocd for sure bipolairty im not sure because when im  "manic" there are moments of sanity and thinking normally so i just dont know who i am anymore but i tend to have to much mood swings not depression or mania time that im elated and time that im fucking pissed at the world like right now or time that im even depressed.... have a good life and thanks for commenting

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You don't need to have every single symptom on the list to be bipolar. You just don't happen to have sleeplessness as one of your symptoms. I'm never hypersexual, for instance.

So you think your diagnosis is wrong? I don't think Geodon either causes or mimics bipolar illness. Anything's possible, but I've never heard of it. I was agitated while on it, so had to come off of it, but it was clearly med related.

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16 hours ago, melissaw72 said:

I don't have a definite answer for you, but just wanted to say IMO that I believe that genetics do not have much to do with developing a MI, however most people on this site think it could be.

Personally I have no people in my family on both sides (going back many decades), who have ever had a MI.  I am the first one to have a MI in my family. So there were no genetics that played a role with me.

I have a history of depression on both sides, anxiety in various forms on both sides, schizophrenia and eating disorders on one, and a sociopath on the other. That's just what I know of. I think it's mostly genetics for me.

I think it could be nature or nurture, but probably some combination of the two for most people. 

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1 hour ago, heilmania said:

I have a history of depression on both sides, anxiety in various forms on both sides, schizophrenia and eating disorders on one, and a sociopath on the other. That's just what I know of. I think it's mostly genetics for me.

I think it could be nature or nurture, but probably some combination of the two for most people. 

 

 

I never made a blanket statement saying that it was flat out not genetics.  I said for ME it was not.  That is why I wrote in my initial post (see bold):

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I don't have a definite answer for you, but just wanted to say IMO that I believe that genetics do not have much to do with developing a MI, however most people on this site think it could be.

I was saying IMO.  And that even though mine is not genetics, "most people on this site think it could be."

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12 hours ago, bigbangaz said:

Yeah but it seems odd to me that i ve slept the normal amount of hours not less than 7 hours i think. it happened when i was 22 now im 28 changed my meds to geodon and zoloft...do u have to sleep less than 4 hours to be considered manic.. and all those events didnt happen the same day it lasted a semester the odd behaviour impulsivity rage frustration restlessness and problem concentrating on theoric matters only on numbers cause im good with numbers....

When I am manic, it is usually only the first few days where I have sleep problems. Other than that, usually I can sleep for just as long as usual, but sometimes it takes longer to fall asleep or I wake up more.

6 hours ago, melissaw72 said:

 

 

I never made a blanket statement saying that it was flat out not genetics.  I said for ME it was not.  That is why I wrote in my initial post (see bold):

I was saying IMO.  And that even though mine is not genetics, "most people on this site think it could be."

Scientists have confirmed genetics, so yes most people on this site 'think it could be'. My mom was bipolar, her sister schizphrenic, other sister avodiant personality disorder, and the other sister MDD. Her parents were born in the generation of "we don't talk about it" so no one there got diagnosed but I think it was on both sides.

 

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7 hours ago, melissaw72 said:

I was saying IMO.  And that even though mine is not genetics, "most people on this site think it could be."

I gotcha, Melissa. I was just trying to give the OP an idea of the other end of the spectrum, which is totally what I think it is: a spectrum. Obviously, many people end up battling MI because of life events rather than just genetics. Others may be able to just point to genetics, like me. I can't point to an event or time that could have caused my MI, but I have family history on both sides that certainly contributed.

Sorry if I derailed the conversation.

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