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I'm on Brintellix 20my and abilify10mg I've been trying to lose weight for over 7mths now. I go to the gym 4days a weeks, tried low carb diet, and currently just counting calories AGAIN.  I want to lose about 20-25lbs but I just jump around the same 7lbs.  I've been tested for thyroid issues and all was good. 

I'm getting so very frustrated. All this work and no results. Anyone out there been where I am? Did you figure out how to break the weight loss stall? 

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I haven't been on Brintillix, I have had weight gain (not major, about 12kgs at the most) on a couple of meds and found that that last 10-12kgs just refused to shift until I stopped the medication (not suggesting you do so given it's working for you). I tend to have a happy weight range and can gain or lose 5kgs over and over and over but to actually change that weight is REALLY hard work. I have to really drop my calories (not to ridiculous levels but I have to watch sugar, I have to watch carbs and I have to be really careful about counting calories) in order to get any more off and get below that weight. It was like that with Paxil (12kgs above my regular happy weight) and Citalopram (10kgs above my happy weight).

In general it's just calories in vs calories out. Sometimes if you've been dieting for a while you can actually spend a week eating more calories, then go back and cut them back again, it will sometimes get the scale moving again (sorry I'm not much help but I've been where you are so wanted to give you empathy).

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2 hours ago, Jessamine said:

In general it's just calories in vs calories out.

I think in general it is the kinds of foods you eat ... for example, 100 calories in an apple (or 2 apples, whatever) vs 100 calories of milk chocolate, those won't metabolize the same way.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/04/30/fructose-and-protein-related-to-obesity.aspx

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One Calorie Can Be Vastly Different from Another...

According to Dr. Robert Lustig, fructose is "isocaloric but not isometabolic." This means you can have the same amount of calories from fructose or glucose, fructose and protein, or fructose and fat, but the metabolic effect will be entirely different despite the identical calorie count. This is largely because different nutrients provoke different hormonal responses, and those hormonal responses determine, among other things, how much fat you accumulate.

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http://www.drhirani.com/diet/sugar-the-bitter-truth/

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Regular dieticians will tell you a “calorie is a calorie”.  This is false.  Calories from sugars are more harmful because of the way your body will metabolize them.  These calories from sugars should be eliminated from your diet. Calories from sugar may be “isocaloric” BUT NOT “isometabolic” with calories from glucose.

 

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On 7/24/2016 at 3:33 PM, pixiestarr said:

I'm on Brintellix 20my and abilify10mg I've been trying to lose weight for over 7mths now. I go to the gym 4days a weeks, tried low carb diet, and currently just counting calories AGAIN.  I want to lose about 20-25lbs but I just jump around the same 7lbs.  I've been tested for thyroid issues and all was good. 

I'm getting so very frustrated. All this work and no results. Anyone out there been where I am? Did you figure out how to break the weight loss stall? 

I've never been on Brintellix, and it's been a very long time since I have been on Abilify. So I don't know if those medications can interfere with weight loss but I have/had the same issues with my own weight loss.

First, I give you major kudos for going to the gym 4 days a week! That takes major motivation. I also empathize with the weight loss stall. Going to the gym 4 days a week and trying to eat better helped me lose that first 8 lbs but then....nothing for months.

I agree that cutting calories helps the scale, but I disagree with cutting all carbs. My biggest success was cutting out sugar aka simple cabs (but not complex carbs). Cutting way down on sugar, and adding more fiber and protein, has helped with my belly fat the most (not to mention helping brain symptoms). I started out with not only cardio, but weight training. Which for me is one reason why I stalled. The weight on the scale was not able to reflect how my body fat % was decreasing while my muscle mass was increasing. Measuring myself monthly helped.

8 hours ago, melissaw72 said:

I think in general it is the kinds of foods you eat ... for example, 100 calories in an apple (or 2 apples, whatever) vs 100 calories of milk chocolate, those won't metabolize the same way.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/04/30/fructose-and-protein-related-to-obesity.aspx

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http://www.drhirani.com/diet/sugar-the-bitter-truth/

 

And I agree with melissaw72, to an extent.

A calorie is a unit of energy and no matter where the calorie comes from you don't process that calorie differently. So basically a calorie really is a calorie. If your goal is to eat a certain number of calories in a day and you have 100 calories left, eating that 100 calorie chocolate bar is the same thing as eating that 100 calorie apple. Cutting calories really can help you lose weight no matter where that calorie comes from, but only as long as you are burning the same calories.

I greatly agree that the issue is less the calorie itself and more where it comes from.

Depending on where it comes from, you will lose weight with counting calories but not lose fat (your pants may get smaller but your fat percentage and scale number will still be high). Also you may not be getting the proper nutrition you need from the types of food you are consuming, leading feeling like crap as well as easily gaining back old weight and stalling on losing new weight. This is where calories aren't as important as the type of carbohydrates you take in.

Simple carbs (basic sugars) are digested and burned quickly, and Complex carbs are burned slowly. Your body burns simple carbs first so when if you eat a lot of them your body is not able to burn the complex carbs, which is then stored in your body creating excessive fat (esp. in the belly). So if you eat certain foods (even "health foods") that is excessive in simple carbs (or basic sugars) it can be counterproductive to weight loss no matter how low the calories are.

FWIW both fruit and candy are technically considered simple carbs. But the fiber in fruit slows down their digestion which makes them act more like a complex carb instead of being quickly processed like basic sugar. Foods with high sugar and low fiber, or high sugar low fats, are the worst for your body even if they are low calorie.

That is why I read food labels now :P A lot of companies will create "low fat" or "low calorie" foods to sell their products and seem healthy, but they add a lot of sugar/simple carbs to make it taste better which can hurt you more than help.

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7 hours ago, Sloane said:

A calorie is a unit of energy and no matter where the calorie comes from you don't process that calorie differently. So basically a calorie really is a calorie. If your goal is to eat a certain number of calories in a day and you have 100 calories left, eating that 100 calorie chocolate bar is the same thing as eating that 100 calorie apple. Cutting calories really can help you lose weight no matter where that calorie comes from, but only as long as you are burning the same calories.

I agree with everything but this ^^

I don't want to get into going back and forth about it, so we'll have to agree to disagree.

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12 hours ago, melissaw72 said:

 

I agree with everything but this ^^

I don't want to get into going back and forth about it, so we'll have to agree to disagree.

Yes, we will (bold).

The fact of the matter is there is a difference between weight loss and healthy weight loss. Losing weight, and how you process/metabolize food, is complex and may vary depending on your physiology. 

You can eat that 100 calorie chocolate bar and still lose weight (as long as you burn those same calories), but are starving yourself of important nutrients eating that instead of eating the apple

 

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