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My niece just started PHP, she ALSO has bipolar, like myself.  She is 34 years old.  Anyway, she was told she is NOT to talk to ANYONE about what goes on at PHP, including family.  Now I know she isn't just saying this so as not to talk about it because believe me she is very, very outspoken, if she didn't want to talk about it, she'd say "I don't want to talk about it" in no uncertain terms.  So I was just wondering out of curiosity has anyone else had this "don't say a word to outsiders" about anything that goes on in here kind of rule?  I myself never had anything other then the rule or request not to give away peoples real names or identifying factors, and believe me I've been through it all ...IOP,PHP AA, INPATIENT, GROUP....Etc.

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I'm currently in a program where one of our groups is treated that way, except that you're allowed to share what you yourself said to the group and, with someone else's permission, you can bring up someone else's thoughts.  So a fairly big variation on the not talking about it ever under any circumstances.  But it even goes within the program, because who composes the group can vary from day to day. 

The rest of the program is a "respect everyone's privacy" sort of restriction.  I wouldn't feel comfortable sharing much about people's background, but I'm okay talking about what I did and how people may have responded.  I wouldn't feel comfortable raising someone else's issues, though. 

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When I attended a PHP program (briefly--maybe a week or two total but rarely consecutive days...I had attendance issues, which is part of why I stopped going altogether), no one ever said anything during intake or in any of the groups or outside the groups about there being a code of silence. In fact, I came home on a couple of occasions and told my mom some of what happened in groups*. I didn't use names (if I even remembered them) and my mom was never going to come into contact with these people or be able to recognize them even if she did randomly cross paths with them because I never described them physically.

*In case anyone's curious, I was mainly venting to my mom about a certain program attendee who had a tendency to monopolize every group.

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Most group therapy of any kind has a "what goes on in group, stays in group" philosophy.  Don't name names, don't share personal details which are not one's own, etc.  This is usually to protect the identity and privacy of its members.  Note that formal 12-step groups are very clear and intentional about keeping the "anonymous" part alive.

In the end, it comes down to simple consideration and integrity.  The Golden Rule goes a long way.  Nobody wants to be defined or identified by their secrets and struggles.

 

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Mm. There's preserving people's confidentiality, & not using names/obvious identifiers/talking ppl's specifics, which is Good.

..and then there's "SAY NOTHING OF ANY OF THIS" which is.. Kinda.. Cult-y. 0_o Not talk about your own progress? Not talk about any troubles you might be having with the techniques, with the staff, etc? Not talk about what they do in even general terms? That would be a Big Red Flag for me if any treatment group demanded that of us, & I would probably run at that point.

Reminds me of the whole blanket-ban on electronics in IP, supposedly to protect patients, but in practice as a widespread abuse of power/cutting people off from sharing their experiences with the outside.

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Yes, they did give her the speech about people's privacy but apparently then preceded to say no talking about anything including as to whether or not they took anger management classes or worked on coping skills etc. .....( I advised her to be weary of kool-aid offers;))

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