heard botox can cause anxiety?

[Guest Nancy B]

I read too much internet crap, anyone hava any experience with this and/or other collagen fillers?

[trailerparkbarbie]

And I was thinkin' of checking into botox this week!!!

Off to do research..................

Thanks for the headsup, NancyB.

Wouldn't that been a helluva note to be an anxious, wrinkle free bitoch?

How would anyone know? They wouldn't take me seriously if I couldn't even wrinkle my forehead!

[AirMarshall]

I searched Pubmed and came up with one citation:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...l=pubmed_docsum

The title indicates that depression/anxiety was related to the loss of feeling and muscle control, not due to effect on the brain.  Unfortunately no abstract or article is availble.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...l=pubmed_docsum

This article relates that the use of botulinum toxin for treatment of wrinkles is "Extremely safe".

Only 25 articles were found using the search  "anxiety, botulinum toxin".  Out of 25 only the two above pertained to the use of botox in treating wrinkles. The remaining articles related that the use of botox either improved anxiety levels or had no effect when used to treat the following disorders:  Tourettes, Spasmodic Dysphonia (voice), Myofacial Pain, Hyperhidrosis (sweating), Urogynecology, Cervical Dystonia (neck), Tardive Dyskenesia.

As far as mechanism of action this explanation was found:

Direct central nervous system effects are not observed, since BT does not cross the blood-brain barrier and since it is inactivated during its retrograde axonal transport.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...l=pubmed_docsum

This shows that botox cannot act on the brain to effect anxiety level. 

a.m.

[Guest Nancy B]

wow, thanks for all the research, off to get primed and plastered thursday

[Guest Nancy B]

Had the botox and cosmoderm yesterday with a valium, next time I won't even need a benzo, plus it looks wonderful. Went to board certified PS

[AirMarshall]

Wow, you look 10 years younger!

A.M.

[Dee]

I get it on my forehead about 3 x a year.  It's no big deal and I look 25, but I'm 30 something.  Good stuff!

I also get Juvederm 30 HV in my lips.

[Guest Nancy B]

Wow, you look 10 years younger!

[Guest moomin]

It took me 6 years of getting Botox to realize that every time within 12 hours, I experienced sudden and severe insomnia, extreme anxiety, panic attacks, and a rapid slide into depression. I have always been very even keel, not terribly moody, and sleep like a champ, so the difference is drastic and obvious, and certainly not psychological. Suspecting the connection, I began to keep "mood charts" over the last 2 years, documenting what happened to me after having Botox. The link is absolute and very clear -- it's the Botox that is causing the problems.

If you search message boards, MANY other people have experienced exactly the same thing. Doctors and Clinicians deny such "side effects" are common, even real, and yet they are being widely reported all over the internet. The problem is, because we do not expect such a response to Botox, we do not directly connect the reaction.

It has quite devastated my life -- leading to a misdiagnosis from a Psychiatrist, and eventually taking 5 dangerous mind-altering medications to "treat" the misdiagnosis. Of course, my "mental illness" strangely went away every time the Botox wore off, but try explaining that to a Psychiatrist! Once I realized what was really going on, I weaned myself successfully off all medications working with a Naturopathic Doctor, and a Nutritional Psychiatrist (yes, they exist!) -- and of course I stopped having Botox.

I think it will be years before the true effects of Botox become apparent. I wonder if there is any link between the drastic increase in RXs for sleeping pills, anti-anxiety meds and antidepressants in the last 10 years -- and the advent of Botox during the same period. It's hard to know -- because these side effects are not disclosed by the manufacturer of Botox -- so Doctors don't know to expect or look for them. They automatically dismiss them as probably psychological, when clearly they are not. I think the key problem is people probably don't realize Botox is doing this to them, because a) they don't expect it, and b) they want to focus on the positive outcome of Botox.

Until more people speak up -- and file "adverse event" reports with the FDA as I did -- nothing will change. You can file an "adverse event" report here: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medw...atch-online.htm

[Guest LIsa North]

It took me 6 years of getting Botox to realize that every time within 12 hours, I experienced sudden and severe insomnia, extreme anxiety, panic attacks, and a rapid slide into depression. I have always been very even keel, not terribly moody, and sleep like a champ, so the difference is drastic and obvious, and certainly not psychological. Suspecting the connection, I began to keep "mood charts" over the last 2 years, documenting what happened to me after having Botox. The link is absolute and very clear -- it's the Botox that is causing the problems.

If you search message boards, MANY other people have experienced exactly the same thing. Doctors and Clinicians deny such "side effects" are common, even real, and yet they are being widely reported all over the internet. The problem is, because we do not expect such a response to Botox, we do not directly connect the reaction.

It has quite devastated my life -- leading to a misdiagnosis from a Psychiatrist, and eventually taking 5 dangerous mind-altering medications to "treat" the misdiagnosis. Of course, my "mental illness" strangely went away every time the Botox wore off, but try explaining that to a Psychiatrist! Once I realized what was really going on, I weaned myself successfully off all medications working with a Naturopathic Doctor, and a Nutritional Psychiatrist (yes, they exist!) -- and of course I stopped having Botox.

I think it will be years before the true effects of Botox become apparent. I wonder if there is any link between the drastic increase in RXs for sleeping pills, anti-anxiety meds and antidepressants in the last 10 years -- and the advent of Botox during the same period. It's hard to know -- because these side effects are not disclosed by the manufacturer of Botox -- so Doctors don't know to expect or look for them. They automatically dismiss them as probably psychological, when clearly they are not. I think the key problem is people probably don't realize Botox is doing this to them, because a) they don't expect it, and b) they want to focus on the positive outcome of Botox.

Until more people speak up -- and file "adverse event" reports with the FDA as I did -- nothing will change. You can file an "adverse event" report here: [link=https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medwatch/medwatch-online.htm" target="_blank]https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medw...atch-online.htm[/link]

[Guest Guest]

It took me 6 years of getting Botox to realize that every time within 12 hours, I experienced sudden and severe insomnia, extreme anxiety, panic attacks, and a rapid slide into depression. I have always been very even keel, not terribly moody, and sleep like a champ, so the difference is drastic and obvious, and certainly not psychological. Suspecting the connection, I began to keep "mood charts" over the last 2 years, documenting what happened to me after having Botox. The link is absolute and very clear -- it's the Botox that is causing the problems.

If you search message boards, MANY other people have experienced exactly the same thing. Doctors and Clinicians deny such "side effects" are common, even real, and yet they are being widely reported all over the internet. The problem is, because we do not expect such a response to Botox, we do not directly connect the reaction.

It has quite devastated my life -- leading to a misdiagnosis from a Psychiatrist, and eventually taking 5 dangerous mind-altering medications to "treat" the misdiagnosis. Of course, my "mental illness" strangely went away every time the Botox wore off, but try explaining that to a Psychiatrist! Once I realized what was really going on, I weaned myself successfully off all medications working with a Naturopathic Doctor, and a Nutritional Psychiatrist (yes, they exist!) -- and of course I stopped having Botox.

I think it will be years before the true effects of Botox become apparent. I wonder if there is any link between the drastic increase in RXs for sleeping pills, anti-anxiety meds and antidepressants in the last 10 years -- and the advent of Botox during the same period. It's hard to know -- because these side effects are not disclosed by the manufacturer of Botox -- so Doctors don't know to expect or look for them. They automatically dismiss them as probably psychological, when clearly they are not. I think the key problem is people probably don't realize Botox is doing this to them, because a) they don't expect it, and b) they want to focus on the positive outcome of Botox.

Until more people speak up -- and file "adverse event" reports with the FDA as I did -- nothing will change. You can file an "adverse event" report here: [link=https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medwatch/medwatch-online.htm" target="_blank]https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medw...atch-online.htm[/link]

[Guest sista]

It took me 6 years of getting Botox to realize that every time within 12 hours, I experienced sudden and severe insomnia, extreme anxiety, panic attacks, and a rapid slide into depression. I have always been very even keel, not terribly moody, and sleep like a champ, so the difference is drastic and obvious, and certainly not psychological. Suspecting the connection, I began to keep "mood charts" over the last 2 years, documenting what happened to me after having Botox. The link is absolute and very clear -- it's the Botox that is causing the problems.

If you search message boards, MANY other people have experienced exactly the same thing. Doctors and Clinicians deny such "side effects" are common, even real, and yet they are being widely reported all over the internet. The problem is, because we do not expect such a response to Botox, we do not directly connect the reaction.

It has quite devastated my life -- leading to a misdiagnosis from a Psychiatrist, and eventually taking 5 dangerous mind-altering medications to "treat" the misdiagnosis. Of course, my "mental illness" strangely went away every time the Botox wore off, but try explaining that to a Psychiatrist! Once I realized what was really going on, I weaned myself successfully off all medications working with a Naturopathic Doctor, and a Nutritional Psychiatrist (yes, they exist!) -- and of course I stopped having Botox.

I think it will be years before the true effects of Botox become apparent. I wonder if there is any link between the drastic increase in RXs for sleeping pills, anti-anxiety meds and antidepressants in the last 10 years -- and the advent of Botox during the same period. It's hard to know -- because these side effects are not disclosed by the manufacturer of Botox -- so Doctors don't know to expect or look for them. They automatically dismiss them as probably psychological, when clearly they are not. I think the key problem is people probably don't realize Botox is doing this to them, because a) they don't expect it, and b) they want to focus on the positive outcome of Botox.

Until more people speak up -- and file "adverse event" reports with the FDA as I did -- nothing will change. You can file an "adverse event" report here: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medw...atch-online.htm

I was wondering if your Nutritional Psychiatrist is in the NY/NJ area?

[Guest cherie]

It took me 6 years of getting Botox to realize that every time within 12 hours, I experienced sudden and severe insomnia, extreme anxiety, panic attacks, and a rapid slide into depression. I have always been very even keel, not terribly moody, and sleep like a champ, so the difference is drastic and obvious, and certainly not psychological. Suspecting the connection, I began to keep "mood charts" over the last 2 years, documenting what happened to me after having Botox. The link is absolute and very clear -- it's the Botox that is causing the problems.

If you search message boards, MANY other people have experienced exactly the same thing. Doctors and Clinicians deny such "side effects" are common, even real, and yet they are being widely reported all over the internet. The problem is, because we do not expect such a response to Botox, we do not directly connect the reaction.

It has quite devastated my life -- leading to a misdiagnosis from a Psychiatrist, and eventually taking 5 dangerous mind-altering medications to "treat" the misdiagnosis. Of course, my "mental illness" strangely went away every time the Botox wore off, but try explaining that to a Psychiatrist! Once I realized what was really going on, I weaned myself successfully off all medications working with a Naturopathic Doctor, and a Nutritional Psychiatrist (yes, they exist!) -- and of course I stopped having Botox.

I think it will be years before the true effects of Botox become apparent. I wonder if there is any link between the drastic increase in RXs for sleeping pills, anti-anxiety meds and antidepressants in the last 10 years -- and the advent of Botox during the same period. It's hard to know -- because these side effects are not disclosed by the manufacturer of Botox -- so Doctors don't know to expect or look for them. They automatically dismiss them as probably psychological, when clearly they are not. I think the key problem is people probably don't realize Botox is doing this to them, because a) they don't expect it, and b) they want to focus on the positive outcome of Botox.

Until more people speak up -- and file "adverse event" reports with the FDA as I did -- nothing will change. You can file an "adverse event" report here: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medw...atch-online.htm

[Guest cherie]

Hi, Just read your entry. I have had the same symptoms but didn't know if it was realated to all the other problems I was having in my life. What did you do to get over the insomnia and anxiety? How long did yours last after receiving the botox injections? I made the mistake of getting botox yesterday and then read this posting, now I'm even more anxious about what I did.

[Guest Amanda]

I read too much internet crap, anyone hava any experience with this and/or other collagen fillers?

[Guest Amanda]

I read too much internet crap, anyone hava any experience with this and/or other collagen fillers?

[The Emperor]

Well, someone bumped it, so, here's my two cents;

I know it would personally cause ME a lot of anxiety if I couldn't change facial expressions and no matter how I felt I always looked surprised. Yeah, that would freak me out a little.

[Guest Amanda]

I am also doing research as to what is going on with me! I totally think that it is the Botox. I had my first injection last Thursday. I immediately started having headaches that still continue on a daily basis. I developed a fairly large raised "bump" at one of the injection sites. I started having tremors, chills, and 3 days after, ended up in the hospital with a "panic attack". My ears were ringing, I was very disoriented (putting trash in the fridge, and milk in the closet) and my heart would race one minute, then beat very slowly the next. I honestly thought I was having a heart attack! I have had chest pain and headaches ever since, and just today felt like I was going to have another attack. I really don't feel that this was a panic attack. I plan on checking into this further. I can't imagine living with this for an extensive period of time.

[Guest April]

Wow! I am so excited to find someone with a similar story! I started having anxiety and panic attacks shortly after my first time to have botox injected in my forehead(2 years ago). I wondered if there was a connection but at that time was unable to find anyone on the internet with a similar story. I continued having it done over the next 18 months. And continued having on again off again bouts of General Anxiety Disorder. I just was NOT the same person. And I have always been a happy go lucky person that has never suffered anxiety or depression a day in her life! Unfortunately I never journaled the time line of my anxiety bouts and botox injections. But I would always wonder based on the timing of the anxiety bouts if there was a connection. However, I also thought maybe there was a connection to my large caffeine consumption. So I gave up caffeine for about a year, but still had the anxiety on and off. The last time I had anything done was about 6 months ago and I decided to try dysport instead. I noticed some of the anxious feelings, but I also noticed a weird consistent shooting pain on the right side of my head. I decided that I was done with putting this poison in my body. I haven't had any anxiety for months despite going back to my large daily caffeine consumption. I am not a doctor, nor have I spent much time with a doctor regarding these issues. But I know my body, and I strongly believe there is a connection between botox/dysport and my brain. If anyone would like to contact me on this matter, feel free at gxcgirl@hotmail.com. I also started going to a derm doctor and having lyra and aura lasers performed on a regular basis. The effects are not quite as good as botox, but I have definitely noticed some good tightening and lifting from it. AND no anxiety! So it's good enough!

[Guest rebecca]

It took me 6 years of getting Botox to realize that every time within 12 hours, I experienced sudden and severe insomnia, extreme anxiety, panic attacks, and a rapid slide into depression. I have always been very even keel, not terribly moody, and sleep like a champ, so the difference is drastic and obvious, and certainly not psychological. Suspecting the connection, I began to keep "mood charts" over the last 2 years, documenting what happened to me after having Botox. The link is absolute and very clear -- it's the Botox that is causing the problems.

If you search message boards, MANY other people have experienced exactly the same thing. Doctors and Clinicians deny such "side effects" are common, even real, and yet they are being widely reported all over the internet. The problem is, because we do not expect such a response to Botox, we do not directly connect the reaction.

It has quite devastated my life -- leading to a misdiagnosis from a Psychiatrist, and eventually taking 5 dangerous mind-altering medications to "treat" the misdiagnosis. Of course, my "mental illness" strangely went away every time the Botox wore off, but try explaining that to a Psychiatrist! Once I realized what was really going on, I weaned myself successfully off all medications working with a Naturopathic Doctor, and a Nutritional Psychiatrist (yes, they exist!) -- and of course I stopped having Botox.

I think it will be years before the true effects of Botox become apparent. I wonder if there is any link between the drastic increase in RXs for sleeping pills, anti-anxiety meds and antidepressants in the last 10 years -- and the advent of Botox during the same period. It's hard to know -- because these side effects are not disclosed by the manufacturer of Botox -- so Doctors don't know to expect or look for them. They automatically dismiss them as probably psychological, when clearly they are not. I think the key problem is people probably don't realize Botox is doing this to them, because a) they don't expect it, and b) they want to focus on the positive outcome of Botox.

Until more people speak up -- and file "adverse event" reports with the FDA as I did -- nothing will change. You can file an "adverse event" report here: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medw...atch-online.htm

[OscillateWildly]

No offense but I had no idea botox was so common? I"m 27 and starting to get paranoid about looking OLDZ (oh I miss being told I look 16, that doesn't happen too often anymore), but I don't think I would ever get botox. Again = inevitable. Trying to fight it = you end up looking freakish. Best to just embrace it with stride and do what you can to look healthy/youthful/good while aging.

Surgery and paralyzing your face does NOT make you look 21 again, all it does is make you look like a 35 year old with a plastic paralyzed face.

I totally believe botox can cause psych symptoms - it is a toxin for christs sake. I also totally believe the plastic surgeons are covering it up as long as they can, until eventually it can't be covered up any more (which will probably happen when they invent a new procedure and botox is no longer profitable).

[Guest Nancy B]

Saw my old post by accident.

Here's whats true for me.

I can get a little anxious from the lidocaine during the moments of injection. But for about 2 weeks after a botox session, I feel wonderful. Not so weird as I might have thought, people are reporting this "side effect" all over the net. YAY!

I'm currently on 50 mg of seroquel, 40 mgs lexapro and ambien.

[Guest nika]

It took me 6 years of getting Botox to realize that every time within 12 hours, I experienced sudden and severe insomnia, extreme anxiety, panic attacks, and a rapid slide into depression. I have always been very even keel, not terribly moody, and sleep like a champ, so the difference is drastic and obvious, and certainly not psychological. Suspecting the connection, I began to keep "mood charts" over the last 2 years, documenting what happened to me after having Botox. The link is absolute and very clear -- it's the Botox that is causing the problems.

If you search message boards, MANY other people have experienced exactly the same thing. Doctors and Clinicians deny such "side effects" are common, even real, and yet they are being widely reported all over the internet. The problem is, because we do not expect such a response to Botox, we do not directly connect the reaction.

It has quite devastated my life -- leading to a misdiagnosis from a Psychiatrist, and eventually taking 5 dangerous mind-altering medications to "treat" the misdiagnosis. Of course, my "mental illness" strangely went away every time the Botox wore off, but try explaining that to a Psychiatrist! Once I realized what was really going on, I weaned myself successfully off all medications working with a Naturopathic Doctor, and a Nutritional Psychiatrist (yes, they exist!) -- and of course I stopped having Botox.

I think it will be years before the true effects of Botox become apparent. I wonder if there is any link between the drastic increase in RXs for sleeping pills, anti-anxiety meds and antidepressants in the last 10 years -- and the advent of Botox during the same period. It's hard to know -- because these side effects are not disclosed by the manufacturer of Botox -- so Doctors don't know to expect or look for them. They automatically dismiss them as probably psychological, when clearly they are not. I think the key problem is people probably don't realize Botox is doing this to them, because a) they don't expect it, and b) they want to focus on the positive outcome of Botox.

Until more people speak up -- and file "adverse event" reports with the FDA as I did -- nothing will change. You can file an "adverse event" report here: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medw...atch-online.htm

[Moil]

Since the median lethal dose of botulinum toxin in measured in the nanograms I imagine it would have to be diluted a ridiculous amount in order to be safe enough to be used for just about anything...I wonder if one or more of the diluents and/or additives could be contributing to any problems one would have with it.

On a more general note...the fact that one could hold enough botulinum toxin in one hand to kill every person on the planet, weirds me out enough to not want to be anywhere near the stuff.

[withing]

According to this article Botox can lessen your ability to feel anything.

[lavender]

To folks who've gotten the botox, can you tell me approx how much it costs? Would love to get it done!

[Indigo 'n dye]

can you tell me approx how much it costs?

I have a couple of friends, one male one female, who regularly have cosmetic botox injections. Locally the price runs about $475 USD per session and the results last around three months. Some folks will find the price exorbitant; others will see the price as not only reasonable, but a bargain.

Some folks see the blunting of emotions as a negative while others see that as a positive secondary effect.

[helloheartbreak]

I'd get anxious without Botox because I'd have a lot more migraines. I don't know how much it costs though, my insurance covers it. If you go this route make sure it's a neuro doing the injecting.

[Simple Milady]

As per my research: http://www.realself.com/question/botox-side-effects-anxiety-sinus-infection-insomnia

[mudpuppy]

Is there a reason you use the "eye roll" emoticon on every post you make?

[Guest julie]

It took me 6 years of getting Botox to realize that every time within 12 hours, I experienced sudden and severe insomnia, extreme anxiety, panic attacks, and a rapid slide into depression. I have always been very even keel, not terribly moody, and sleep like a champ, so the difference is drastic and obvious, and certainly not psychological. Suspecting the connection, I began to keep "mood charts" over the last 2 years, documenting what happened to me after having Botox. The link is absolute and very clear -- it's the Botox that is causing the problems.

If you search message boards, MANY other people have experienced exactly the same thing. Doctors and Clinicians deny such "side effects" are common, even real, and yet they are being widely reported all over the internet. The problem is, because we do not expect such a response to Botox, we do not directly connect the reaction.

It has quite devastated my life -- leading to a misdiagnosis from a Psychiatrist, and eventually taking 5 dangerous mind-altering medications to "treat" the misdiagnosis. Of course, my "mental illness" strangely went away every time the Botox wore off, but try explaining that to a Psychiatrist! Once I realized what was really going on, I weaned myself successfully off all medications working with a Naturopathic Doctor, and a Nutritional Psychiatrist (yes, they exist!) -- and of course I stopped having Botox.

I think it will be years before the true effects of Botox become apparent. I wonder if there is any link between the drastic increase in RXs for sleeping pills, anti-anxiety meds and antidepressants in the last 10 years -- and the advent of Botox during the same period. It's hard to know -- because these side effects are not disclosed by the manufacturer of Botox -- so Doctors don't know to expect or look for them. They automatically dismiss them as probably psychological, when clearly they are not. I think the key problem is people probably don't realize Botox is doing this to them, because a) they don't expect it, and b) they want to focus on the positive outcome of Botox.

Until more people speak up -- and file "adverse event" reports with the FDA as I did -- nothing will change. You can file an "adverse event" report here: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medw...atch-online.htm

[Guest julie]

My God, I thought I was the only one who had lost her mind. I had Botox on 10/20/2010 and the very next day had the first panic attack of my life.

My husband thought he may have to take me to an ER, because I couldn't stop crying, my heart was racing and I had the worst jitters I have ever felt in my life. The next day, I had flu symptoms, that felt like I was going to die, I went to the Doc 4 times that week thinking I was dying. I had violent nausea, chills, dizziness, could not eat for days but not fever. He said it was a panic attack and could be from the Botox! Hmm, I have had Botox many times and never has this happened before.

Today is now 11/5/2010 and for the last 5 days I still wake up nausea with a bit of diarrhea , I have been feeling a small amount of panic all of today and I stayed in bed all day.

If this is from the Botox, then I wont be so worried, at least I will know I have not lost my mind. But can someone please tell me when it will go away. I am sad all day long, and feeling very nervous that I may never go back to normal.

If anyone can help or has any feedback, please email me @ butterflychaserr@aol.com

Thanks.

[CameronG]

Hi all, new to the forum. My wife had botox about 10 months ago and has struggled with some pretty extreme side effects ever since. We acknowledge that the clinically the risk of having an adverse reaction to botox may be VERY rare, however I beg people to do research on this before having botox treatment for aesthetic reasons.

I understand that for some people who take botox for medical reasons that the risks may be worth it, and that its made a big different to the quality of life for many of these people... BUT.... if you are just getting botox to look younger beware !!!

Read the Allergan warnings about botox:

http://www.allergan...._March%2009.pdf

Also please look at the site which I have created with my wife to try to support other people who are suffering from the side effects of botox.

http://botoxsupportcommunity.com

Here you will read posts from people who are experiencing the same side effects that allergan warns about... but what is not clear from allergan for obvious reasons is the severity of these side effects.

There are people who are not able to go to work because of the severity of body twitches, the nausea, the anxiety which can last sometimes for over 12 months.

I am all for people making their own choices, if you are well informed and choose to continue to have botox, and this works for you, I am happy :-)

What we hope to do though it both warn people about the real effects of the drug, and also to help people who are suffering..

I hope that people find this information useful, please visit our site.

If you have any questions or comments, please post here, or e-mail us via the site.... we would love to get your feedback.

Regards,

Cameron

Edited November 30, 2011 by CameronG

[crtclms]

We are a first person site. If your wife wants to post about her experience, she is welcome to do so, but we discourage family members from posting.

 

Botox does not work that well on my headaches, but any improvement from a 5 or 6 migraines a week is worth it to me.

 

I did not lose my ability to express emotions, and the paralysis was quite high up on my forehead. I was not using it for cosmetic reasons, and a neurologist did it each time. I am going to do it again soon.

 

It doesn't make me anxious at all.

Ack, zombie thread! how did this appear out of nowhere? Sorry.