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Anyone often experience constant, ruminating negative thoughts (They are not severe at all, and NOT having to do with self harm or suicide) but just constant negative thoughts about your situation/job/spouse/life that are difficult to distract yourself from?

These are not "racing thoughts", manic nor impulsive thoughts either - They are very repetitive thought patterns that get in the way of experiencing (or enjoying) the moment or noticing what is around you?

I think this is a common part of Depression, however, I've had certain doctors say this is a "Bipolar" cycling thing. What do you think? Is there a medication you feel helps with this?

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Not sure if this is the same thing you experience or not, but I'll say it just in case:

This has happened to me except the thoughts (from other "people") are interjected into my own thought process.  They can be regular good thoughts, but most of them are some sort of negative thoughts that I feel like I have to correct so people don't think I am actually thinking what was just put in my head.  I always feel like I am correcting myself.  These aren't racing thoughts, and not manic or impulsive.

What gets in the way of experiencing the current moment is when all these negative thoughts come into my head, and instead of focusing on what is actually going on, I am always correcting the thoughts because I don't want others to think badly of me.  I know this probably doesn't make sense, but it happens to me.

To this day, I have not found a medication that will get rid of ALL of the thoughts.  Some meds (APs) settle them down so they aren't as bad, and for whatever reason trazodone (for some reason this med at a specific dose of 200 mg), has gotten rid of them mostly.

I hope this helps!

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yes, I periodically get into ruminative space about things, and have been suffering from this lately, where I am just thinking obsessively and unproductively about a particular situation, unable to get it out of my head (unless another upsetting situation presents itself, and then I can alternate obsessing about that!) I have a bipolar diagnosis, and have been cycling a lot lately, but I can't say whether it's a bipolar thing, an anxiety thing, or something else. For me, the rumination seemed to pick up when I went off of buspirone, which I had taken for years for generalized anxiety disorder, so I suspect that buspirone had some mitigating effect on the rumination.

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When depressed, I definitely get stuck ruminating on situational factors and negatives (job loss, loneliness, the things I can't do, past mistakes, etc.)  I imagine we all have a mile-long list of ruminations, worries, and obsessive thoughts.

CBT has been helpful with identifying cognitive distortions.  A lot of my ruminating is all-or-nothing or catastrophic thinking: "I'm never going to get better."  "My life is ruined."  If I can catch myself thinking those kind of thoughts, it makes it easier to take a step back, re-frame the thought, or distract.  Mindfulness can really help with this, too.

I think meds can help take the edge off but also believe there's a lot of mental work we have to do ourselves and/or in therapy.

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4 hours ago, lifequake said:

When depressed, I definitely get stuck ruminating on situational factors and negatives (job loss, loneliness, the things I can't do, past mistakes, etc.)  I imagine we all have a mile-long list of ruminations, worries, and obsessive thoughts.

CBT has been helpful with identifying cognitive distortions.  A lot of my ruminating is all-or-nothing or catastrophic thinking.

I did years of CBT and found it to be the least helpful when I am negatively ruminating/obsessing on certain stressful circumstances (at least circumstances which I think I have some control to fix) I guess this symptom can happen whether you are depressed/bipolar/anxious....all of the above.

Trying to distract myself (and practice some DBT skills I've also learned in the past) hoping I can pull out of this downward spiral. At least it's not to the point of keeping me up all night, but it really has a strong hold on me right now...wanting to "fix everything" obsessing, obsessing...

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