OliverB Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) I am taking 75mg right now and the target dose is 100-125mg... is it possible it is the cause of my anxiety and stress getting worse because I am titrating up, do I keep going and up to 100 or low it to 50? I havve heard sometimes it actually is a bit anti-anxiety... I am taking like 4-7mg of klonopil a day while before I just took twice a week, and just 1mg. It's killing me Edited November 6, 2016 by Bixo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissaw72 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I'm sorry you are feeling so bad and are so anxious. Does you pdoc know about this? They'd know more about what dose to give you, and how to titrate up. I also think (IMO) that 4-7 mg of klonopin is a high dose. I know it helps you, but I just think it is something to at least tell your pdoc about. Also keep in mind that if you are taking that much and it isn't prescribed like that, you'll run out of your prescription before it can be refilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverB Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) 23 minutes ago, melissaw72 said: I'm sorry you are feeling so bad and are so anxious. Does you pdoc know about this? They'd know more about what dose to give you, and how to titrate up. I also think (IMO) that 4-7 mg of klonopin is a high dose. I know it helps you, but I just think it is something to at least tell your pdoc about. Also keep in mind that if you are taking that much and it isn't prescribed like that, you'll run out of your prescription before it can be refilled. I told the nurse on friday, she phoned the pdoc since he wasn't at the day hospital and said he couldn't do anything until Tuesday because he was in a course and couldn't prescribe anything from there. I was taking 6-12mg on friday and told them I was, but I lowered to 4-7mg, it doesn't help that much with anxiety in any case, I am still anxious after 4mg at once. Since I am on 75mg of lamotrigine I take half in the morning, 1mg afternoon and 2 at night, which is 3.5, but it is not enough so I take more as a PRN. Now it's 5pm and I have taken 3.5mg. I can take 6mg at once and sleep only 6h because my anxiety and stress are incredibely high. I have 60pills of clonazepam 2mg, I won't run out by Tuesday, I will beg him to give me gabapentin so I can stop taking klonopil everyday. Edited November 6, 2016 by Bixo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearhead Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I'm so sorry this is rough for you Bixo, but if it makes it any easier, know that LTG titration can be very rough, and often makes people feel worse before they feel better. It can be a very activating medication. How fast are you increasing the dose? I spent a long time-weeks-at 50 mgs, getting comfortable, before I went to 75 mgs, and then weeks there before going up again. That made it bearable for me, and it's been a very good medication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverB Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gearhead said: I'm so sorry this is rough for you Bixo, but if it makes it any easier, know that LTG titration can be very rough, and often makes people feel worse before they feel better. It can be a very activating medication. How fast are you increasing the dose? I spent a long time-weeks-at 50 mgs, getting comfortable, before I went to 75 mgs, and then weeks there before going up again. That made it bearable for me, and it's been a very good medication. I was OK at 50mg, only really mild headache, and I increased to 75mg after a week of feeling OK. The headache has gone away, instead now I get anxiety. Maybe if I increase to 100mg anxiety will go away' Edited November 6, 2016 by Bixo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissaw72 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 10 minutes ago, Bixo said: I told the nurse on friday, she phoned the pdoc since he wasn't at the day hospital and said he couldn't do anything until Tuesday because he was in a course and couldn't prescribe anything from there. I was taking 6-12mg on friday and told them I was, but I lowered to 4-7mg, it doesn't help that much with anxiety in any case, I am still anxious after 4mg at once. Since I am on 75mg of lamotrigine I take half in the morning, 1mg afternoon and 2 at night, which is 3.5, but it is not enough so I take more as a PRN. Now it's 5pm and I have taken 3.5mg. I can take 6mg at once and sleep only 6h because my anxiety and stress are incredibely high. I have 60pills of clonazepam 2mg, I won't run out by Tuesday, I will beg him to give me gabapentin so I can stop taking klonopil everyday. Sounds like you've done everything you can, and can't do anymore until Tuesday when you see pdoc. Again, I'm sorry about the anxiety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt07 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I wouldn't increase the dose without your pdoc's approval. Lamotrigine caused me a lot - and I mean A LOT - of anxiety when I was titrating up. I believe at 75 mg it was the worst for me. After I got over 100 mg, things calmed down. I also should say that even if you stay at 75 mg, the anxiety will go away in a couple of weeks. When I was titrating up, at each dose level, I'd get anxiety which would go away in a couple of weeks right about when it was time for my next dose increase. But I rode it out and eventually got to my target dose and stayed there and everything was fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverB Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 Pdoc told me to increase it 25mg per week, which is tomorrow. I talked with the psych nurse today, she gave me 4 15mg clorazepate -tranxane- pills, she told me to take one each 8 hours until tomorrow. I took one and felt nothing, so I took all.... and felt nothing but a mild headache. anxiety and restless still killing me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverB Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 Finally today I am seeing my pdoc as an emergency appointment to see if he can give me gabapentin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissaw72 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 3 hours ago, Bixo said: Finally today I am seeing my pdoc as an emergency appointment to see if he can give me gabapentin. Good luck at the appt ... I hopes he can give you the gabapentin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverB Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 42 minutes ago, melissaw72 said: Good luck at the appt ... I hopes he can give you the gabapentin. He didn't and I gave him my clonazepam since he said I am abusing it, I am not, I need it to control anxiety. More on schizo forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissaw72 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 42 minutes ago, Bixo said: He didn't and I gave him my clonazepam since he said I am abusing it, I am not, I need it to control anxiety. More on schizo forum That really sucks. Did he say why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverB Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 1 hour ago, melissaw72 said: That really sucks. Did he say why? Because I was taken too much, but I find it pretty normal to take a lot of benzo is anxiety is killing you at the point you are thinking about jumping through the window to avoid anxiety. I don't have any more, when he said I wsa abusing them I gavve them to him to show him I wasn't. So I don't have benzos. I don't know what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissaw72 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 42 minutes ago, Bixo said: Because I was taken too much, but I find it pretty normal to take a lot of benzo is anxiety is killing you at the point you are thinking about jumping through the window to avoid anxiety. I don't have any more, when he said I wsa abusing them I gavve them to him to show him I wasn't. So I don't have benzos. I don't know what to do. 4 hours ago, melissaw72 said: Good luck at the appt ... I hopes he can give you the gabapentin. 3 hours ago, Bixo said: He didn't and I gave him my clonazepam since he said I am abusing it, I am not, I need it to control anxiety. I thought from your other post in schiz forum you said that he gave you the 300 mg of gabapentin, (as well as you giving him all your clonazepam) with you signing that paper that he (pdoc) said you weren't responsible for the side effects etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverB Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, melissaw72 said: I thought from your other post in schiz forum you said that he gave you the 300 mg of gabapentin, (as well as you giving him all your clonazepam) with you signing that paper that he (pdoc) said you weren't responsible for the side effects etc? No, I told him I won't take something he is angry about me taking it and I won't sign anything because that's not how it works. He looked really angry, it was scaring. He wanted me to sign a paper saying he is not responsible of side effects since he doesn't know the med, which is.... shit. Edited November 8, 2016 by Bixo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissaw72 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, Bixo said: No, I told him I won't take something he is angry about me taking it and I won't sign anything because that's not how it works. He looked really angry, it was scaring. He wanted me to sign a paper saying he is not responsible of side effects since he doesn't know the med, which is.... shit. Oh ok ... I misunderstood what you wrote ... sorry about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverB Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, melissaw72 said: Oh ok ... I misunderstood what you wrote ... sorry about that! Don't worry, I a m tired, and dissapointed, it's hard to explain myself clearly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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