WinterTidings Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) Prettymuch what it says on the tin. Everything I google gets "How to treat people who don't want to be treated" "Reasons why people don't seek mental health support", yadda yadda et nausea. Nothing actually, y'know, useful, or crediting people like us with an ounce of agency. Does anyone know of real resources, not either run by "I want you to see why you're wrong, it's for your own good!" creeps or "I want you to see why the Sky Brain needs your Soul Juice (and wallet)" creeps, or "Willowbark can help your mitochondria flourish at their natural levels of holistic energy" creeps. Actually useful resources/community for people who for whatever reason do not or cannot access MH care. Whisper Edited January 24, 2017 by WinterTidings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopelessly Broken Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I am in this boat, more so the cannot access variant but also the I will never put an ounce of hope or trust in any mental health professional in the mental health system here again, because all they do is reject you, say they can't do anything or assume shit, make dramas out of things that are my life etc. But obviously I still need to function. This needs far more recognition than it is getting. Although I have a sense no one is going to answer on CB because pro-treatment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoey Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 you two realize this is a pro treatment site right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopelessly Broken Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) Obviously. I am not against that, but when treatment is not available, there are no resources and you have been continually treated like a doormat, what else is there? That is my reason for agreeing with the OP. I am sick of that being ignored. Edited January 24, 2017 by Hopelessly Broken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryp Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 It's a fair point. It's possible to be pro-treatment and also acknowledge that the mental health system (more in some countries than others - but pretty much everywhere) can be inadequate/shitty/inaccessible and that other solutions are also needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopelessly Broken Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Pretty hard to be though. When you have been left to rot and fend for yourself, with a diagnosis that either nobody knows about or is highly stigmatised, and you are far from functional and no self-help seems to be doing a darn thing, especially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterTidings Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Zoey said: you two realize this is a pro treatment site right? I do. It doesn't mean that people don't find themselves in valid situations such as ours, or that we don't have needs too. "It's an illness it needs treatment!" leads to either: "..So if you can't get access to good/safe treatment, what now?" a blase nonchalance to people who are in that situation, or a view that anyone who cannot access such care (but is alive to still have needs) is inherently 'not sick enough'. As I think most CB users will find the latter two repellant, I don't think this is an unreasonable topic to start for gathering resources. Whis Edited January 24, 2017 by WinterTidings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inabook Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I don't feel that this is going against being pro-treatment, rather looking at more resources to support people with MI. I hardly see how this would be incompatible with treatment... Sadly I don't have any resource to recommend (workbooks online?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopelessly Broken Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I think something else in this realm that needs to be better understood is how socialised public healthcare actually works, not just that it is free or low cost, so stop complaining. Because that very type of healthcare is why many people have no MH care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunder Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I don't know of anything that would help significantly long term. Support groups might be of some use, if one is open to those and there are good ones around. I also had found these online meetings http://www.dbsalliance.org/site/PageServer?pagename=peer_Online_Support_Groups when I was working on finding good treatment in a new location. I was always to nervous to actually participate, so I have no idea if they are any good. I also know some people who have gotten short term support from clergy members if that's your thing. Not from, "just accept God and he will solve all your problems" religions, but from pastors in more liberal denominations who will meet with congregants and offer more real-life support and problem solving. It likely will only go so far, but I've known people who this has helped them get through a particularly tough time, or help them fill a gap when for whatever reason they do not have adequate current mental health providers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancesintherain Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I'm afraid all I can come up with are two things already mentioned--a support group (if one exists and you can get out of your house) and the various mental health-related books. It could be a separate post to identify a good book on a particular issue (though you're right HB that finding something with your particular diagnosis is going to be hard--I have to believe that there's something out there though). I recognize reading requires concentration, which is a whole diifferent problem. So basically, I validate your problem while running out of solutions. My apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailmix Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 7 Cups and IMAlive are free, anonymous online text chat services with trained listeners, online therapists, and counselors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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