zyda Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 History: I have seen the same psych for 8 years. She has had me on 2 mgs's of xanax daily the whole time. Recently i missed a 3-month appt since i was really sick(still am, had a lung biopsy last week). When i called to reschedule a couple weeks later, they told me i had a bill to pay first. So i paid my bill and asked to reschedule. The receptionist told me 4/24. I said ok. and asked to have my doc call my scripts in since I was almost out (it was well over due). She said that they couldn't fill them until i came in. I told her that in the past if i had this happen, the doc would refill as long as i had made contact and scheduled an appointment. She then said that normally thats what they do but her supervisor told her in this case that she wasn't allowed to put in my request. I tried leaving a message for my doctor but nothing. My doctor had even told me in the past not to stop taking them suddenly. I feel like something is wrong with all of this. Is there any thing i can do? I know going off after being on it daily for so long is slightly dangerous so i am scared and not to mention im already going through a major health crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt07 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Well, I'm not sure what you can do if your doctor isn't willing to prescribe without seeing you first. I honestly can't say how dangerous it is to go off 2 mg of Xanax, but if it were me, I'd do a quick taper with my remaining Xanax to prevent anything dangerous (seizure) from happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt07 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 15 minutes ago, Dphxa said: I don't know maybe tell the receptionist that you could have seizures if you don't have it or go to the ER and get some that way if that is an option for you. Another option is sometimes a gdoc will be able to get a sooner appointment than a pdoc. If you emphasize the more physical aspect (seizures) with them, that is something they can understand a little better and they might be willing to write a script. The problem with going to the ER or to a gdoc to get Xanax is that it could be seen as doctor shopping and drug seeking behavior. And you absolutely do not want to be labelled a drug seeker. If you are labelled a drug seeker, you will have a hard time getting any controlled substances prescribed to you no matter how badly you need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissaw72 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) I agree with previous posters ... 3 hours ago, jt07 said: I'd do a quick taper with my remaining Xanax to prevent anything dangerous (seizure) from happening. 3 hours ago, jt07 said: it could be seen as doctor shopping and drug seeking behavior. And you absolutely do not want to be labelled a drug seeker. 3 hours ago, Dphxa said: If you emphasize the more physical aspect (seizures) with them, that is something they can understand a little better and they might be willing to write a script. Edited March 31, 2017 by melissaw72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyda Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) I have 2 MG total left. And this is a medication I've been on daily for 7 years so I don't know how much tapering I can do. I didn't have any warning this would happen otherwise I would have figured it out. I'll probably try my primary care but it that fails then I guess I'll just Roll the dice and hope I don't have a withdrawal so bad I can't function/have seizures. I am having a hard time understanding how doctors can you put you on a PHYSICALLY addictive medication and not take some responsibility for the safe withdrawal of it. Edited March 31, 2017 by zyda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyda Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 Well if I die of a seizure I hope my family does. Honestly I am mad I am in this situation. I was put on it at 22. No one wwarned me about withdrawal. I've never even raised my dose in 7 years or lost a script or anything so I really don't see the reason for this nonsense. Wah wah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissaw72 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, zyda said: I am having a hard time understanding how doctors can you put you on a PHYSICALLY addictive medication and not take some responsibility for the safe withdrawal of it. I agree. It sucks that because you were physically sick (and had a lung biopsy), that your pdoc wouldn't take that into consideration. Did your pdoc know this specific reason (lung biopsy) why you weren't able to make the appt? And that if she needed results to prove it you could get them to her? (ie have one DR fax results to pdoc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyda Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 I hope it was relayed to her. But I'm starting to wonder. I feel like the receptionists there just don't care. I've had the same primary for 12 years so hopefully he will be understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooster Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I would go physically camp out in the doc's office with all my prescription bottles if this were me. front office staff may not get it that you have a med that has a physically dangerous abrupt discontinuation profile. and while it sucks that it's not been effective on the phone, hopefully camping out in the lobby will help them understand the seriousness of it. since you have a longstanding relationship with your primary, that's also a good route to go, especially if you can confirm your appointment in April for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissaw72 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 7 hours ago, zyda said: I hope it was relayed to her. But I'm starting to wonder. I feel like the receptionists there just don't care. I've had the same primary for 12 years so hopefully he will be understanding. I'd call back. Although would your pdoc call you back so you could explain to her why you couldnt be there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceberg Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I agree...call again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearhead Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 15 hours ago, Dphxa said: All the more reason not to get on Xanax Not helpful, Dphxa. Xanax works, is a perfectly legitimate legal medication with a long history of usage, and furthermore, you are not a doctor, and you don't get to prescribe for people or cast aspersions on what they take. We don't condemn the use of any legal medication, and we don't make snarky remarks about using them, particularly to people in trouble, either. Knock it off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DopamineSick Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 This situation is downright cruel. I agree with everyone else to try to call again and explain the situation differently and emphasize the physical implications of going off cold turkey. But if that doesn't work, I agree with Wooster to just physically go to the office. You missed an appointment through no fault of your own. This almost feels like punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceberg Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Body chemistry is so weird isn't it? I went from 2mgs a day to nothing cold turkey and no side effects...of course this has no bearing on you you need to do what's safe for you to avoid withdrawal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisHarleQuinn Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I had a PNP who like stopped returning my calls for me to make appts. I had an overdue of $25, literally and no one would ever have her call me back for my meds. So I'm with the PNP I have now. Where I live, a LOT of PNPs, MDs, psychatrists, etc. won't perscribe Xanax anymore. It's too common of a street drug these days, that it's hard to get your hands on. Like, you've gotta be real effed in the head. I've tried getting a Xanax script. I was told no. I'm even on disability. I've had terrible terrible anxiety attacks. my mom even had a script for it, and her doctor won't fill hers. I feel like soon Xanax will be a drug you can only get from a drug dealer. Like, no kidding. If people didn't abuse shit other people needed, it wouldn't be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceberg Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 There is also klonipin to treat panic...but it needs to be a steady (small as possible) dose...or Xanax XR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissaw72 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Iceberg said: There is also klonipin to treat panic...but it needs to be a steady (small as possible) dose...or Xanax XR I agree that it needs to be a steady dose, at least for me. It isn't enough for me though to help the anxiety. I still need something for breakthrough anxiety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceberg Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 How much do you take per day? (I'm sorry I can't see your signature) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissaw72 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, Iceberg said: How much do you take per day? (I'm sorry I can't see your signature) I take klonopin ODT 0.5 mg 2x/day and xanax 0.5 ODT PRN/day (total). Edited April 1, 2017 by melissaw72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notloki Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 At my pdoc's if I miss a scheduled appointment and schedule a make up appointment they will not refill until actually attend my new appointment. Otherwise they will do refills between appointments provided I have an appointment scheduled on the books. For the most part this applies to controlled or scheduled medications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceberg Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Not for me...my doc gives me month supplies even though we meet every two weeks @melissaw72 I take a higher klonipin dose so there isn't room for extra breakthrough meds...and at that point It would be beating a dead horse if I'm already at 4mg klonipin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 (edited) On 3/31/2017 at 0:07 AM, zyda said: I hope it was relayed to her. But I'm starting to wonder. I feel like the receptionists there just don't care. I've had the same primary for 12 years so hopefully he will be understanding. Sounds like they do not care. I would be incensed. YOu are absolutely right. It is COMPLETELY UNFAIR to drop you off a med and one like Xanax? Something smells weird. My mdoc hated that I was on benzo's. But that was her problem. My pdoc prescribes them. The insurance company does not like that I take two different benzos. I take valium for social anxiety, xanax for a sleep aide. But that's too bad. It doesn't matter what the med is or what you use the med for, body checking the med at the door is unprofessional and potentially dangerous. Like Woo said, I would camp out on the phone and then make sure this never happens again. Always order your meds if you can, 4 days early. There is usually a window with every insurance company. This is how to stockpile for an emergency. And under this administration we could all lose our meds at the drop of a hat. Edited April 2, 2017 by water Ignore that last sentence. It is an egxageration but felt good to write. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Just now, Dphxa said: What's an mdoc? Is there a sticky with a list of all these abbreviations and what they mean? I'm sorry. There is! I'll see if I can find it. In the meantime: mdoc - primary care physician or medical doctor. pdoc - psychiatrist tdoc - therapist These are the only ones I use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Here it is! The glossary and or what do all the acronyms stand for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt07 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 @Dphxa You can use gdoc for mdoc. I use gdoc or GP. All you want is to be is clear that it isn't pdoc which means psychiatrist only. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissaw72 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 8 hours ago, Iceberg said: Not for me...my doc gives me month supplies even though we meet every two weeks @melissaw72 I take a higher klonipin dose so there isn't room for extra breakthrough meds...and at that point It would be beating a dead horse if I'm already at 4mg klonipin Idk if you are even wanting some xanax as another med or not, but if so, could you go down to a little less Klonopin than 4 mg/day? Like maybe 3 mg? (I'm guessing currently that is 2 at night/2 in the morning so it is on a schedule?) So maybe 1 at night, 2 in the morning, or vv? (if pdoc oks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissaw72 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 7 hours ago, water said: Always order your meds if you can, 4 days early. There is usually a window with every insurance company. This is how to stockpile for an emergency. Completely 100% agree. I do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notloki Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Doing mail order and 90 day supplies one provider allowed me to refill after one month into a 90 day script. Not for the CII meds like Adderall, though. I took the opportunity to develop a 90 day supply to keep on hand as backup. It has served me well, especially when switching insurers, as I am now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooster Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 @notloki That's some serious organizational skill! I wish I could get myself organized in that way about all my meds. I've currently got one that's got a backup 90 day supply but only because I forgot it was there. It would help if I got on the "fill as early as you can" strategy for a bit so I can not have to worry about running out. If I can do it with toilet paper, I can do it with meds, right?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceberg Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 (edited) @melissaw72 it's one with morning meds, one in late after noon, one with night meds and a second one if I can't sleep. So I have flexibility at night and I also have gone to a more PRN type where my doc says "up to four" becuase sometimes if I'm sleepy in am I do one in the early afternoon instead of one earlier and one later...I cant take any until I'm fully away so that's one reason why I don't do the 12 hr schedule ...so it's more like 2 mg on schedule and 2mg PRN(ish)...but no I tried Xanax...my pdoc would have me on a higher doses of one than a lower dose of two Edited April 2, 2017 by Iceberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissaw72 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 36 minutes ago, Iceberg said: @melissaw72 it's one with morning meds, one in late after noon, one with night meds and a second one if I can't sleep. So I have flexibility at night and I also have gone to a more PRN type where my doc says "up to four" becuase sometimes if I'm sleepy in am I do one in the early afternoon instead of one earlier and one later...I cant take any until I'm fully away so that's one reason why I don't do the 12 hr schedule ...so it's more like 2 mg on schedule and 2mg PRN(ish)...but no I tried Xanax...my pdoc would have me on a higher doses of one than a lower dose of two Oh ok , so 2 mg of that is PRN. For me when I take the whole dose twice a day I don't feel tired ... it becomes a baseline for anxiety. So it evens out over my body in a general way, with xanax as a breakthrough PRN, which is an immediate way to help with my anxiety. That is how it works for me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceberg Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 (edited) The problem is if I do two at night every night I get super dependent on it for sleep So basically I do what you do except I use klonipin for the extra instead of Xanax. The reason for that was the Xanax was taking like 90 min to kick in so we figured at that point go for the long acting cuz it'll be the same anyway Edited April 2, 2017 by Iceberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 FYI: The new and improved Glossary List: http://www.crazyboards.org/forums/index.php?/topic/87296-glossary-of-abbreviations-2017/ Thank you @Cerberus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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