looking for answers Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 How much do you take? DOes it work? and how close to bed do you take it? right now i take 50mg seroquel, 50 mg trazadone for sleep.......about an hour before bed...........works really well as a combo Only thing is work is so stressful right now and its messing with my sleep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikl_pls Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Back when trazodone used to work for me, I could take 50 mg and it wouldn't be like 20 minutes later before I would be stumbling around and slurring my speech... I would pretty much have to take my trazodone while laying in bed and then just pass out. But then it started not working as well, and had to start increasing the dose, increasing the duration of time before bed that I took it, etc. I got up to 200 mg of trazodone and my pdoc cut me off and said that if I went any higher, it would actually get stimulating rather than sedating. Sorry to hear work is stressing you out so much. That's no good... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking for answers Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, mikl_pls said: Back when trazodone used to work for me, I could take 50 mg and it wouldn't be like 20 minutes later before I would be stumbling around and slurring my speech... I would pretty much have to take my trazodone while laying in bed and then just pass out. But then it started not working as well, and had to start increasing the dose, increasing the duration of time before bed that I took it, etc. I got up to 200 mg of trazodone and my pdoc cut me off and said that if I went any higher, it would actually get stimulating rather than sedating. Sorry to hear work is stressing you out so much. That's no good... yeah its just a tough time, im gonna up my 50 to 75 tonight i have a little extra, see how it goesss, then maybe 100 next night if needed. if it works call pdoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewey Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I was thinking of asking my psych doc tomorrow about taking Trazadone for sleep. Currently I take Seroquel 25 mg, but am ultra sedated throughout the next day. So, looking for something else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking for answers Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) Just now, Dewey said: I was thinking of asking my psych doc tomorrow about taking Trazadone for sleep. Currently I take Seroquel 25 mg, but am ultra sedated throughout the next day. So, looking for something else. jts worth a try, how long have u been on seroquel Edited October 2, 2018 by looking for answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyRedhead Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, looking for answers said: How much do you take? DOes it work? and how close to bed do you take it? 200mg of Traz has been working well for me......Still works after about 3 years. It's my main sleep med........I take it about 30 min to an hour before I go to sleep....Some people take it with food, but I take it on empty stomach. Edited October 2, 2018 by CrazyRedhead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking for answers Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 Awesome thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking for answers Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 Well pdoc wants to go to seroquel 100 trazadone 50 for sleep as opposed to trazadone 100 seroquel 50 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt07 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 29 minutes ago, looking for answers said: Well pdoc wants to go to seroquel 100 trazadone 50 for sleep as opposed to trazadone 100 seroquel 50 Sounds like a plan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking for answers Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) I’ll try it last time he told me he liked traz for sleep better Edited October 2, 2018 by looking for answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikl_pls Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, looking for answers said: I’ll try it last time he told me he liked traz for sleep better He may not like the fact that trazodone has an active metabolite, mCPP, which is actually stimulating the higher the dose goes. Trazodone is very useful in low, low doses for sedation, but the higher the does goes, it does get stimulating, but that's usually past 150-200 mg. I remember just out of frustration one time I took 300 mg all at once before bed one time, and I started having a panic attack... My heart started pounding and racing and I thought I was going to have a heart attack. It really freaked me out. But the thing about Seroquel is that you can only target so many H1 histamine receptors at a time as you escalate the dose before you start targeting other receptors. If you want to try something antihistaminergic, maybe consider asking about low-dose doxepin or low-dose trimipramine in lieu of Seroquel, unless Seroquel is being used for mood stabilization (which I doubt, as it is being used at such a low dose...) Edited October 2, 2018 by mikl_pls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewey Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) 22 hours ago, looking for answers said: jts worth a try, how long have u been on seroquel Oh, sorry, for some reason thought you were asking me, lol. Edited October 2, 2018 by Dewey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking for answers Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, mikl_pls said: He may not like the fact that trazodone has an active metabolite, mCPP, which is actually stimulating the higher the dose goes. Trazodone is very useful in low, low doses for sedation, but the higher the does goes, it does get stimulating, but that's usually past 150-200 mg. I remember just out of frustration one time I took 300 mg all at once before bed one time, and I started having a panic attack... My heart started pounding and racing and I thought I was going to have a heart attack. It really freaked me out. But the thing about Seroquel is that you can only target so many H1 histamine receptors at a time as you escalate the dose before you start targeting other receptors. If you want to try something antihistaminergic, maybe consider asking about low-dose doxepin or low-dose trimipramine in lieu of Seroquel, unless Seroquel is being used for mood stabilization (which I doubt, as it is being used at such a low dose...) yeah were just using both for sleep, he suggested the combo, and it worked wonderfully. i vaguely remmeber him telling me that he thought traz promoted better sleep, and that it was easier to play around with.............and he has given me a range script for that before liek take 50-150 mg.................now when i called he said up the seroquel lol so who knows.......i wont go past 100 on seroquel for sleep.........im not getting back on that train....... Just now, Dewey said: On and off Seroquel, on an as needed basis over the past 3 years. Never more than a week at a time. Just stopped it last night as the accumulative effect (after 3 days) causes severe muscle tension and muscle cramps at night. Might give it a few days before I start the Latuda. how much seroquel, and for what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argh Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 3:45 PM, looking for answers said: yeah were just using both for sleep, he suggested the combo, and it worked wonderfully. i vaguely remmeber him telling me that he thought traz promoted better sleep, and that it was easier to play around with.............and he has given me a range script for that before liek take 50-150 mg.................now when i called he said up the seroquel lol so who knows.......i wont go past 100 on seroquel for sleep.........im not getting back on that train....... how much seroquel, and for what Were you ever on trazodone alone? Asked the...care team? What’s left of the pdocs old team, for trazodone. or did it not work until you added seroquel? Bit scared of that one. Personal hang up about antipsychotics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking for answers Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share Posted October 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, argh said: Were you ever on trazodone alone? Asked the...care team? What’s left of the pdocs old team, for trazodone. or did it not work until you added seroquel? Bit scared of that one. Personal hang up about antipsychotics. yeah i didnt sleep on traz alone. pdocs old team? why are you scared? ive dont it for a while now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argh Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Just now, looking for answers said: yeah i didnt sleep on traz alone. pdocs old team? why are you scared? ive dont it for a while now Yeah I have insurance via a big hospital so her NPs and what not are still around till I get a new pdoc. i suppose the potential risk for diabetes and movement disorders. I know it’s semi irrational as it’d be a low dose and at the very least seroquel has one of the lowest risks for movement disorders. I don’t know. I guess I came into all of this thinking that it’s a nice simple case of classic mdd, no comorbidities or other weird shit, which I could just take an ad and it’d be it. Unbroken. With the failed trial of Remeron and gabapentin helping immensely (ok admittedly poor evidence that it works for bp), it seems like more. More broken shit and more meds to go along with it. Sort of scared that they might say take seroquel as it might make more sense based on well..everything so far. I know...treat the symptoms not the label but yeah. I don’t know. It all seems so nuclear. Why can’t shit ever be simple? Im rambling and need to get out of this headspace. thanks for the feedback bro. ps. Cbd oil doesn’t help with sleep much. It definitely is calming and quiets the mind somewhat, which is quite nice. No drugged or hazy feeling either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking for answers Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share Posted October 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, argh said: Yeah I have insurance via a big hospital so her NPs and what not are still around till I get a new pdoc. i suppose the potential risk for diabetes and movement disorders. I know it’s semi irrational as it’d be a low dose and at the very least seroquel has one of the lowest risks for movement disorders. I don’t know. I guess I came into all of this thinking that it’s a nice simple case of classic mdd, no comorbidities or other weird shit, which I could just take an ad and it’d be it. Unbroken. With the failed trial of Remeron and gabapentin helping immensely (ok admittedly poor evidence that it works for bp), it seems like more. More broken shit and more meds to go along with it. Sort of scared that they might say take seroquel as it might make more sense based on well..everything so far. I know...treat the symptoms not the label but yeah. I don’t know. It all seems so nuclear. Why can’t shit ever be simple? Im rambling and need to get out of this headspace. thanks for the feedback bro. ps. Cbd oil doesn’t help with sleep much. It definitely is calming and quiets the mind somewhat, which is quite nice. No drugged or hazy feeling either. im with you bud, im dx now as bp2, and my therapists, and me say MDD, i dont care what it is, eventualyl u just take what u can to get better. seroquel i was on up to 500mg before, and i had no weight gain, bloodwork was fine, no movement issues. obviously YMMV but i came to a point where things i didnt wanna take, i took, you have to try them, see if they work, trust your medical team. shame the cbd oil dont work. but the low dose seroquel with traz helps me sleep......... I have failed a ton of AD's, some haveb showed some success, lithium helped me alot, seroquel for the depression aspect, not so much, latuda nope, vraylar not bad...... im rambling too but i guess what im saying is dont be scared, everything comes with risks, but the main goal should be getting better. If your doc wants you to try something be open to it, at leas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewey Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just started Trasadone 50 mg and it's working to get me to sleep and now going from interrupted sleep with only 3-4 hours of sleep each night to now 10-14 hours of uninterrupted sleep. I can't believe it when I first wake up and saw the clock, that was a shocker the first time I slept 14 hours. My mood has been elevated more which is a good thing, not sure whether it's from all that sleep or the Trasadone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyRedhead Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Dewey said: Just started Trasadone 50 mg and it's working to get me to sleep and now going from interrupted sleep with only 3-4 hours of sleep each night to now 10-14 hours of uninterrupted sleep. Glad to hear the Trazodone is working so well for you...!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking for answers Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 14 hours! hot damn. glad it works bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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