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I do still crave tobacco, but I also admit I cheat from time to time, by chewing nicotine gum when I have a craving....I always keep some of the gum around, just in case.....(At least it's better than smoking).....

My doc knows about this, and agrees it's better to chew the gum than smoke a cig.

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On 3/14/2019 at 1:56 PM, CrazyRedhead said:

I cheat from time to time, by chewing nicotine gum when I have a craving.

I would love to get off tobacco and onto the gum. I feel like they are not serious about wanting people to give up tobacco otherwise the price of the gum would be comparable to the price of tobacco. I can't afford the gum.

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5 minutes ago, jt07 said:

I would love to get off tobacco and onto the gum. I feel like they are not serious about wanting people to give up tobacco otherwise the price of the gum would be comparable to the price of tobacco. I can't afford the gum.

Yes, the gum is kinda expensive, but I don't use much, maybe chew it a few times a month........I personally think insurances should pay for  nicotine gum or the patches, if they really want ppl to give up smoking, but I have a feeling that's not gonna happen, not anytime soon, anyway.

What have you tried, if anything, to quit?

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I still have dreams about smoking.

I remember those sweet puffs after a meal, or that one where you first wake up and puff, making your eyes water it's so good.

But I'm glad to have quit, cause I can breathe now and exercise.

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I tried switching to a vape for a few weeks.  I honestly don't know how smokers breathe.  I stopped it and was coughing up crap for at least a week.  I couldn't get enough nicotine from the vape.  I was in withdrawal the whole time. 

My problem is the fixation of having a dip in my mouth.  I too love having one after eating and waking up. 

I'm going to try the patches again after this tin is finished.  I have some nicotine gum for when I get cravings. 

I also found some mint pouches online that have no tobacco or nicotine to try. 

Quitting dipping is hard.  I kinda wish I would have been a smoker.  At least my teeth wouldn't be so bad. 

I remember going to the doctor years ago and she asked me if I ever considered switching to smoking.  I laughed at her, thinking she was full of it.  Now I think she was right. 

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i've made candy from WTA (whole tobacco alkaloids) eliquid https://www.omvapors.com/Unflavored-Whole-Tobacco-Alkaloid-Base

 

choc coated coffee beans are good. But only milk choc seems to accept the liquid

 

simple, microwave melt choc, add a few ml liquid per 100 grams chocolate, coat coffee beans (ebay has mould for a few dollars that let the coating be thicker)

 

https://youtu.be/mLurXD64ya8

 

the WTA eliquid is good. Has the feel good alkaloids other than nicotine that snus is rich in, but no TSNAs to cause cancer etc

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My parents both quit 40-year cigarette addictions (a pack per day) using Buproprion / Wellbutrin (the brand Aplenzin). The patch and gum did not work for them. They also received counseling to gain awareness of triggers in order to change habits and behaviors, which is very important. There are the emotional triggers, which led to very ingrained habitual behaviors  (i.e. smoking after coffee in the morning, after dinner, work breaks, going for a walk) They had to intentionally change their set routines.

Personally, I was never a smoker, but used to be a heavy drinker. Wellbutrin completely turned me off to drinking and food cravings all together. I became repulsed by alcohol when I was taking it. I think it really helps (on the biochemistry side) with cravings.

Also, Hypnosis. Find a reputable person who specialises in quitting.

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19 hours ago, BrianOCD said:

I still have dreams about smoking.

I remember those sweet puffs after a meal, or that one where you first wake up and puff, making your eyes water it's so good.

But I'm glad to have quit, cause I can breathe now and exercise.

I quit smoking about 12 years ago and still have the occasional dream where I'm smoking. I wake up and miss it. I miss smoking in some ways to this day and wish I could have a cigarette now and then at those perfect moments but then I remind myself about the pros of being a nonsmoker. Like how I can now sit through a whole movie in a movie theatre without getting antsy. Or sit through a long dinner. And I'm not irritated by staying at hotels. I used to hate hotels if they were nonsmoking only because I'd have to take an elevator down to the lobby and exit to smoke vs. just smoking outside my door at a motel.

Also, airports and flying are infinitely more pleasant as a nonsmoker though there was at least one airport back in the day that had a smoking room so I never minded having a stop there (even though the smoking room was admittedly kind of gross). Not sure if that airport still has the smoking room. Oh, and I was less irritable on hikes once I quit smoking because it sure was awkward smoking on the trail when the fire risk was high. Not to say I never did it (and took my cigarette butts with me), but it was kind of weird having to stop and take smoke breaks on the way up/down a mountain. (Sadly I don't live near mountains anymore.)

I never had a bad cough or anything when I smoked and I worked out and was somewhat active despite being a smoker. I think I noticed a little bit of improvement in my aerobic capacity (or whatever it's called) after quitting but it wasn't nearly as much as I thought it was going to be. I was kind of disappointed in that respect. I thought I was going to feel so much better after quitting but I didn't notice many physical differences other than that I had to eat slightly less each day because I wasn't burning as many calories without the cigarettes. And I was hungry more without nicotine to suppress appetite between meals.

FWIW, I smoked 1/3 to 1/2 pack a day for about 10 years, maybe a little longer. Maybe if I had been a heavier smoker I would have noticed more of a difference physically when I quit. I mean, it was brutal and miserable quitting cold turkey so it was not easy by any means, but I'm talking about physically my skin didn't suddenly clear up and my ability to workout didn't get exponentially better.

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On 3/19/2019 at 1:41 AM, gb84 said:

I tried switching to a vape for a few weeks.  I honestly don't know how smokers breathe.  I stopped it and was coughing up crap for at least a week.  I couldn't get enough nicotine from the vape.  I was in withdrawal the whole time. 

My problem is the fixation of having a dip in my mouth.  I too love having one after eating and waking up. 

I've never smoked a cigarette in my life but I was a heavy dipper, up to about a can a day at my worst.  I understand the fixation.  I tried to quit a few times and it never worked.  I've been going on about five months now, which is a record.  Couldn't do it without vaping.  I agree you typically don't get as much nicotine with vape, but you can probably get enough.  It's tricky because different types of devices and liquids all affect nicotine delivery, and it's rather confusing.  I did once use the wrong type of liquid in a new kit I got and after a few puffs I realized it was WAY too much nicotine.

I really like the convenience of vaping.  You can have a quick puff whenever.  With dip I wanted to have at least 10-15 minutes available and be able to freely spit.  That isn't always an option.  Vaping is much cleaner too.

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Patches and gum help. Chantix and zyban do too, especially Chantix but can affect your mI.

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