eee123 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 My pdoc wrote in a letter (and told me) he thinks I have ocd and schizophrenia but I've realised that secretly in his notes he has written that actually I have a type of OCD where I become convinced I have schizophrenia so that all the drs can laugh at me and he prescribes me anti psychotics as a placebo. I do not know what other type of ocd he could possibly think I have because it is definitely not the cleaning or hygeine type of ocd obsessions. My question is this a real thing (ocd where you think you have schizophrenia)? Or is my pdoc just making stuff up to write malicious stuff in my medical record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyRedhead Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, eee123 said: My pdoc wrote in a letter (and told me) he thinks I have ocd and schizophrenia but I've realised that secretly in his notes he has written that actually I have a type of OCD where I become convinced I have schizophrenia so that all the drs can laugh at me and he prescribes me anti psychotics as a placebo. I do not know what other type of ocd he could possibly think I have because it is definitely not the cleaning or hygeine type of ocd obsessions. My question is this a real thing (ocd where you think you have schizophrenia)? Or is my pdoc just making stuff up to write malicious stuff in my medical record? It certainly is possible that someone could have both OCD and schizophrenia.....It's also possible for a person with OCD to have intrusive or obsessive thoughts that they have schizophrenia. How can you know that your doc has written something "secretly" in his notes?.......How do you know that the anti-psychotics are placebos?.....Pharmacies don't fill prescriptions with placebos....Do you take the meds prescribed by your doc? There are many types of OCD disorder....The type of OCD where you are constantly cleaning (contamination OCD) is certainly not the only type. Here's a link explaining the different types of OCD: https://www.ocduk.org/ocd/types/ Just to share with you, I have the "Checking" type of OCD.....It is listed in the link....Mine is so severe that I can't leave my house without help. Edited March 31, 2019 by CrazyRedhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeremonyNewOrder Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I have schizoaffective disorder and OCD...I've seen others with the same combo as well. It sounds like you need to contact your pdoc about what to take to alleviate your symptoms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterflykisses Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I also have schizoaffective and OCD... my OCD is mostly the "checking" kind... It is definitely possible to have both I take Paxil for my OCD and it works great! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eee123 Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 14 hours ago, CrazyRedhead said: It certainly is possible that someone could have both OCD and schizophrenia.....It's also possible for a person with OCD to have intrusive or obsessive thoughts that they have schizophrenia. How can you know that your doc has written something "secretly" in his notes?.......How do you know that the anti-psychotics are placebos?.....Pharmacies don't fill prescriptions with placebos....Do you take the meds prescribed by your doc? There are many types of OCD disorder....The type of OCD where you are constantly cleaning (contamination OCD) is certainly not the only type. Here's a link explaining the different types of OCD: https://www.ocduk.org/ocd/types/ Just to share with you, I have the "Checking" type of OCD.....It is listed in the link....Mine is so severe that I can't leave my house without help. My pdoc has altered my medical record to remove the two schizophrenia diagnoses and replace it with ocd with obsessive thoughts about having schizophrenia. I don't have proof yet, but I know it is definitely true. I know this is true because I can't see where I fit within the ocd types. I have stopped taking one of the meds I was prescribed (the only non placebo) because it was affecting my abilities and harming the things that live in my house (but not making me feel better) I think that pdoc was jealous of my special abilities and wanted to make them go away. So now I am taking prozac and zyprexa both of which were prescribed as placebos. I guess if ocd obsession with having schizophrenia is real then I can't do anything now because it is written on my file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyRedhead Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, eee123 said: I have stopped taking one of the meds I was prescribed (the only non placebo) because it was affecting my abilities and harming the things that live in my house (but not making me feel better) If you feel comfortable sharing, which medication did you stop taking?........Does doc know you stopped it? 10 hours ago, eee123 said: So now I am taking prozac and zyprexa both of which were prescribed as placebos. I think I mentioned before that pharmacies don't fill prescriptions with placebo pills....It is illegal in the U.S. for a pharmacist to do that. Edited April 1, 2019 by CrazyRedhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeremonyNewOrder Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 12 hours ago, eee123 said: My pdoc has altered my medical record to remove the two schizophrenia diagnoses and replace it with ocd with obsessive thoughts about having schizophrenia. I don't have proof yet, but I know it is definitely true. I know this is true because I can't see where I fit within the ocd types. I have stopped taking one of the meds I was prescribed (the only non placebo) because it was affecting my abilities and harming the things that live in my house (but not making me feel better) I think that pdoc was jealous of my special abilities and wanted to make them go away. So now I am taking prozac and zyprexa both of which were prescribed as placebos. I guess if ocd obsession with having schizophrenia is real then I can't do anything now because it is written on my file. You should just focus on treatment and getting the right meds to treat your symptoms. The diagnoses really don't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eee123 Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 11 hours ago, CrazyRedhead said: If you feel comfortable sharing, which medication did you stop taking?........Does doc know you stopped it? I think I mentioned before that pharmacies don't fill prescriptions with placebo pills....It is illegal in the U.S. for a pharmacist to do that. It was amisulpride... doc knows I've stopped it. He didn't seem to mind, further evidence that he doesn't think I have schizophrenia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt07 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 If I remember correctly, some time ago you had a doctor that insisted that you didn't have schizophrenia but OCD. Am I recalling correctly? Is this the same doctor? I can guarantee you that your doctor is not writing things in your medical record to be malicious. Such a thing would be highly unethical and his/her license would be at stake. There is such a thing as pure O OCD where the OCD manifests itself only as obsessions without compulsions (such as washing or checking). Your doctor might think or have reason to think that you are obsessing on schizophrenia and that the obsession is part of your OCD. I don't know this; I'm just speculating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eee123 Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 hour ago, jt07 said: If I remember correctly, some time ago you had a doctor that insisted that you didn't have schizophrenia but OCD. Am I recalling correctly? Is this the same doctor? I can guarantee you that your doctor is not writing things in your medical record to be malicious. Such a thing would be highly unethical and his/her license would be at stake. There is such a thing as pure O OCD where the OCD manifests itself only as obsessions without compulsions (such as washing or checking). Your doctor might think or have reason to think that you are obsessing on schizophrenia and that the obsession is part of your OCD. I don't know this; I'm just speculating. Yes this is correct and why i am so worried. My current pdoc has written (and told me verbally) that I have schizophrenia plus I have two other doctors say schizophrenia. But my current pdoc ALSO thinks I have ocd, which leads me to believe he is actually writing that I have ocd with an obsession of having schizophrenia since I can't work out what kind of ocd he thinks I have. pdocs office called today with my next appointment but I am afraid to call back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceberg Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 35 minutes ago, eee123 said: Yes this is correct and why i am so worried. My current pdoc has written (and told me verbally) that I have schizophrenia plus I have two other doctors say schizophrenia. But my current pdoc ALSO thinks I have ocd, which leads me to believe he is actually writing that I have ocd with an obsession of having schizophrenia since I can't work out what kind of ocd he thinks I have. pdocs office called today with my next appointment but I am afraid to call back. Have you brought up these reasons/worries directly with the doc 1-on-1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eee123 Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Iceberg said: Have you brought up these reasons/worries directly with the doc 1-on-1? no I am too afraid too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt07 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Well, as others have mentioned, you can have both schizophrenia AND OCD. They are not mutually exclusive. I agree with Iceberg and think you should bring up your concerns with your pdoc. There really isn't any reason to be afraid. He is your doctor, and you should approach him with your concerns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gb84 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Do you have anyone you trust to go with you to your pdoc appointment? Sometimes that makes it easier to speak your mind when you have support with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianOCD Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I have all kinds of fears related to health and mental health. I've entertained being BiPolar, Schizophrenic, etc etc None of them turned out to be true though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aura Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I also think you should talk to your doctor about this. There are so many forms of OCD and some of them don't match up with classic contamination or checking obsessions and compulsions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eee123 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 Well I confronted the pdoc and said my mother thinks I'm paranoid but... I think that the drs are really, secretly writing in my file that I am a hypochondriac. He said he didn't think I was a hypochondriac and read out to me some of his notes and a letter he sent to my gp none of which indicated I was hypochondriac/ocd with fear of schizophrenia and were reasonably supportive and mentioned psychosis.... I am still worried he thinks I am just worried about having psychosis/schizophrenia and don't really have it and just isn't being honest with me... could I have a delusion as it seems real despite him showing me evidence to the contrary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notloki Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Diagnosis is tricky and mainly your doctor picks a diagnosis that will make the insurance pay the claim. I've seen diagnosis changes coming from my doc to suit the insurance. I used to be depression NOS, in fact all my diagnoses went to NOS for a while because the insurance would allow more meds to a NOS diagnosis vs a depression in remission diagnosis. Everything you have claimed your doc and pharmacy are doing is either illegal or unethical. They did not happen. You need to see your doc as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eee123 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, notloki said: Diagnosis is tricky and mainly your doctor picks a diagnosis that will make the insurance pay the claim. I've seen diagnosis changes coming from my doc to suit the insurance. I used to be depression NOS, in fact all my diagnoses went to NOS for a while because the insurance would allow more meds to a NOS diagnosis vs a depression in remission diagnosis. Everything you have claimed your doc and pharmacy are doing is either illegal or unethical. They did not happen. You need to see your doc as soon as possible. Thanks notloki, My pdoc is organising an inpatient stay for me a few weeks from now (because I am going away in the meantime) he said (can't remember exact words) that they would be able to adjust my meds more aggressively in there. I am a bit afraid (also of the cost!) but hope it might help and I might even meet some nice people there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
random_name Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) [deleted] Edited May 2, 2019 by Lapis.Lazuli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persona_Is_Life Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 On 4/1/2019 at 9:27 AM, CrazyRedhead said: If you feel comfortable sharing, which medication did you stop taking?........Does doc know you stopped it? I think I mentioned before that pharmacies don't fill prescriptions with placebo pills....It is illegal in the U.S. for a pharmacist to do that. Trust me (I work in pharmacy as a tech) we are NOT giving you placebos. It is not only extremely unethical, but the harm, insurance fraud, deception, lawsuits, and risks of losing our licenses is enough to deter that kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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