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Do you think your mental health would be better if you had more money

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Not a hypothetical question.  I am not rich but have spare cash and can afford good care even if I had to travel overseas to access it.  But right now I don't feel like any pdoc or tdoc is worth my time let alone one cent of my money.

So I am curious.  If you had a large windfall or large increase in income do you think your mental health would be better and how.  Is there a drug your insurance doesn't cover you think would help, is there a doc you could afford to travel to see, a hospital you would want to go inpatient, a new therapy you want to try, whatever.  Or do you just think all Drs are the same, all drugs are the same, all therapists are the same etc and money wouldn't change a thing.

 

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In my case, I am confident that I couldn't get better psychiatric health care even if I had a windfall. I also look at celebrities and see that they still suffer from their MI too. Look at Robin Williams who took his own life. All his money didn't prevent that.

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2 hours ago, eee123 said:

So I am curious.  If you had a large windfall or large increase in income do you think your mental health would be better and how.  Is there a drug your insurance doesn't cover you think would help, is there a doc you could afford to travel to see, a hospital you would want to go inpatient, a new therapy you want to try, whatever.  Or do you just think all Drs are the same, all drugs are the same, all therapists are the same etc and money wouldn't change a thing.

In my case, just the fact of having more money would help, because I wouldn't have to worry all the time about how I'm going to pay for things......I'm not saying more money would help my MI, but it would eliminate some worry.

I would definitely find a better pdoc if I had lots of money, because I could afford to pay cash for appointments, and wouldn't have to deal with all these insurance restrictions..........My current pdoc is reluctant to even change my meds, so I'm searching for a new doc that would at least be willing to try something different.

I would try TMS therapy, which I can't afford now, because the insurance co-pay is so high.

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21 minutes ago, jt07 said:

In my case, I am confident that I couldn't get better psychiatric health care even if I had a windfall. I also look at celebrities and see that they still suffer from their MI too. Look at Robin Williams who took his own life. All his money didn't prevent that.

Do you feel that you are getting good psychiatric care though (ie your mental health is pretty good and your Drs are listening to you), or do you feel that your mental health is poor but is just the best you can expect?

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I feel like my mental health is poor in general and I'm getting the best care that there is.You can look at my cocktail and see that there is not much else they can do. Every pdoc I've had recently has been sure to point out that there are no miracle pills.

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No. And frankly, if I could increase my income, mental healthcare would be the last thing my money goes towards. My mental health is dependent on other factors that are largely out of my say and control, and without them my mental health will always be terrible regardless of any mental healthcare. 

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53 minutes ago, jt07 said:

In my case, I am confident that I couldn't get better psychiatric health care even if I had a windfall. I also look at celebrities and see that they still suffer from their MI too. Look at Robin Williams who took his own life. All his money didn't prevent that.

Totally agree.

12 minutes ago, jt07 said:

I feel like my mental health is poor in general and I'm getting the best care that there is.You can look at my cocktail and see that there is not much else they can do. Every pdoc I've had recently has been sure to point out that there are no miracle pills.

Same situation here.

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2 minutes ago, jt07 said:

I feel like my mental health is poor in general and I'm getting the best care that there is.You can look at my cocktail and see that there is not much else they can do. Every pdoc I've had recently has been sure to point out that there are no miracle pills.

OK.  I am sorry your mental health is still poor.  Is there a time when you should say no more mental health care as it just doesn't work?  I feel at that stage. 

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Yes, I like my pdoc and my tdoc, but I don’t know if someone else could help me with some issues I have with anxiety and fatigue. And, my tdoc is retiring and there are only so many options with my insurance.

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12 hours ago, jt07 said:

I feel like my mental health is poor in general and I'm getting the best care that there is.You can look at my cocktail and see that there is not much else they can do. Every pdoc I've had recently has been sure to point out that there are no miracle pills.

I feel the same.     I suppose I could chase after the next best cure or treatment ....but I am at the point that I just try meds, therapy and support groups to do the best I can.   I am way over thinking that there is some other doctor that will have some magic cocktail.   In the end it’s up to me to manage my disease.   Sometimes with success and sometimes not.

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13 hours ago, eee123 said:

OK.  I am sorry your mental health is still poor.  Is there a time when you should say no more mental health care as it just doesn't work?  I feel at that stage. 

No, for the last 15 or so years, I have not felt like giving up because the cocktail I am on is working. It's certainly not perfect and I still suffer from depression and find it very hard to function, but at least I'm not suicidal. I am stable on this cocktail, and I guess that's all I can really expect. The hard lifting I have to do myself.

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i don't know. a feature of my OCPD is difficulty spending money, even when i can afford to. right now i'm struggling with the idea of doing therapy weekly, as my tdoc is currently recommending. it's all out of pocket for me because i'm in canada and don't have extended coverage for therapy, and though i can afford it, i'm not comfortable spending that much money. i'm saving for a car right now, and want to put away as much as i can while my expenses are low.

i want to say that i'd definitely do weekly therapy if i had more money, but knowing me, i'd probably stow it away for a rainy day and forbid myself from using it on something as silly as mental health (not that mental health is not worth spending money on -- it's just that my brain has trouble seeing it as important or even vital).

thankfully i have provincial coverage on my meds, and pay nothing for them because i don't make much money. i don't have a pdoc right now, but i wouldn't pay out of pocket for that either because that's publicly funded here.

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15 years ago I got a job with a salary in the 6 figures. I now could afford anything medically reasonable. What did having money change ?

1) No more worrying how I was going pay medical bills. I had not realized how big a stress this is.

2) Not having money be a factor in medical decisions. My quality of care went up big time. I could chose the mot effective treatments regardless of cost.. 

3) Being able to afford the most effective treatments even given the cost. Sometimes more money will not buy you better care, sometimes it will.

4) Being able to see the doctors I want to see even if they don't take my insurance as I can just pay cash. I just see one doc (psychiatrist) that I have to pay cash and it is well worth it. He has never given me a drug that altogether did not did not work. His treatment plan got me into remission. He is progressive with his prescribing.

 

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No and Yes. No because I have a good psych and my parents support me and I live a pretty good life, but my mental health is still shit. Yes because if I did have an irrational amount of money, I would probably spend it all on drugs, atleast in the moment I would. So I wouldn't be genuinely "well". Money cannot buy mental health.

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Things would be much less stressful if I knew I had any kind of financial safety net, could afford all the mental health services and physical medical procedures I need, and could afford to relocate without being at someone else's mercy.   It would be interesting to learn how much my mental health might improve in those circumstances.

 

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Most definitely. I could move out of this horrid government controlled building and get away from all the gossip and people being gross and fighting, and also making up lies about me trying to get me in trouble simply because I complained to the mgmt about someone who was breaking an important rule. 

I could get all the ketamine I need, and if needed could get trans cranial stimulation!

I could move to a very serene place...Hell...on a little island right on the water, where I feel extremely peaceful. 

I wouldn't have to resort to food pantries and could eat very healthy food.

Oh yes. Now if I could only afford to buy lottery tickets! 

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I have had very little money and now make good money. Which means I have good insurance. Well pretty good although if I wanted therapy it’d be mainly out of pocket, which I could afford. Mainly I can afford care plus decent housing and food and a car, and not constantly worry. No it doesn’t cure my MI but spares me many worries and struggles related to low income. But I don’t need to travel for care abroad or anything. And I see a mood specialist so don’t need to see someone different. Still, in the US, with no money, I’d be hard put to see this Dr. 

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It has been said that the difference between being miserable and not is having one nickel more than you need for your monthly bills. I can attest to this, to a degree. I have been on both sides of the equation. I have struggled financially, I have been stable financially, now I'm in dubious waters again. When the question of whether you have the financial resources for your necessities is constantly looming over your head, or at least never very far away, it is an unavoidable drag on mental health, and exacerbates any existing MI a person may be experiencing. This is a quite separate question from whether a person has sufficient funds for exceptional (or even adequate) mental health care. To this degree, at least, I would say that having enough money is always, always a benefit to mental health.

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1 minute ago, Cerberus said:

 To this degree, at least, I would say that having enough money is always, always a benefit to mental health.

Agree totally.....Having enough money is always a plus....

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It’s not clear to me whether having more money would buy me better health care. I live in a state that’s good that way. But yes, it would improve my mental health, because I could stop worrying about money.

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