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Weird, like reading here and other forums, they say it is almost like a magic pill, that they put into sleep instantly, some others say it has the potential of distorted perspective like on DXM but in a relaxing way. I just started last week and i barely see benefits from it. The first night with one 10 mg, a little excited for how would be the effects on me, but 20 minutes later and nothing, then half an hour nothing, soy i eat another 10 mg, so a total of 20, i just felt very mild effects like i've taken valerian or some other herb but i slept, not immediatly but i did. This night i abused, i have to confess i was desperate but never again, so i took one and snorted another one at the same time and again like sugar pill, then ate another one and the 4th one sublingual, so a total of 40 mg, it's a strong dose, and here i am...6:33 in the morning and zero sleep, i had to take 2 mg of clonazepam but i decided better not to sleep, that clona really helps me always, but i prefered not to sleep and start my day, i dont wanna mess with my schedule and drink my coffee, going later to walk, clean the house or read something. Btw today i have the appointment with my psychiatrist and tell him my situation, either prescribe me something else like amitriptyline or stay with my quetiapine and clonazepam, just wanted to augment that combo, but let's see....

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2 hours ago, Equilibrium022x said:

 I just started last week and i barely see benefits from it.

Do you have trouble falling asleep, staying asleep, or both?

I have tried 10mg zolpidem (Ambien) as well, and it didn't work for me, either.....I found it to be pretty weak, personally, although some people have success with it.

I don't know what exactly is available where you live, but you could ask doc about trying Lunesta or Belsomra, which are also meds specifically used for sleep......Belsomra is a little bit pricey, though........There is also Sonata, (which helps more if you have trouble falling asleep), and Silenor (which helps more if you have problems staying asleep).

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Ambien is just another benzo, and so is Lunesta. In my world, they are not long term options for insomnia. They will cause more problems than they solve.

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19 minutes ago, Caddy said:

Ambien is just another benzo, and so is Lunesta. In my world, they are not long term options for insomnia. They will cause more problems than they solve.

Ambien and Lunesta are not benzos....They are nonbenzodiazepine hypnotics:  

 Nonbenzodiazepines have different chemical structures and are therefore unrelated to benzodiazepines on a molecular level.............Also, Lunesta is approved by the FDA for long-term use in the treatment of insomnia:     

https://www.centerwatch.com/drug-information/fda-approved-drugs/drug/877/lunesta-eszopiclone

Some people do find Ambien or Lunesta effective.

 

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2 minutes ago, CrazyRedhead said:

Read the link that you just posted. "Nonbenzodiazepine pharmacodynamics are almost entirely benzodiazepines on a molecular level."

I know exactly what they are. For all practical purposes, they are benzos. They carry all of the same risks as far as tolerance, dependence, withdrawal, and CNS damage.

And to the OP...

The fact that Ambien doesn't put you to sleep is most likely because you have a high tolerance to benzos such as clonazepam. They are cross-tolerant.

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18 minutes ago, Caddy said:

Read the link that you just posted. "Nonbenzodiazepine pharmacodynamics are almost entirely benzodiazepines on a molecular level."

I know exactly what they are. For all practical purposes, they are benzos. They carry all of the same risks as far as tolerance, dependence, withdrawal, and CNS damage.

 

Yes, the pharmacodynamics  are the same, but they have different chemical structures, if you read further into the link I posted.

Both benzos and nonbenzodiazepines can be very helpful for someone who struggles with sleep.

Also, Lunesta has been approved by the FDA for long term use in the treatment of insomnia:

https://www.centerwatch.com/drug-information/fda-approved-drugs/drug/877/lunesta-eszopiclone

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I don't care what the FDA says. I know how they work.

Long term daily use of benzos and non-benzos comes with serious risks. I understand that for some people the pros do outweigh the cons. For me, personally, they do not.

I just think it's important to be educated and aware. Everybody can make their own decision.

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Lunesta is approved for long term use, I have used it for 20 years without a dosage increase/

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3 minutes ago, notloki said:

Lunesta is approved for long term use, I have used it for 20 years without a dosage increase/

According to your signature, you are taking literally double the maximum dose of Lunesta. While that is already concerning by itself, what is even more concerning is the idea that you started on that dosage from the beginning.

Again, for some people the pros do outweigh the cons. Sleep is incredibly important to mental health, and most of us here are on meds that carry risks and side effects.

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I am sick and tired of new people coming and ragging us for this or that. You will receive no answers from me.

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