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Yes, apparently I am “that one” buying all that food and TP. I used to be able to tell myself I was basically a prepper, but now I’m just driven to get more stuff, beyond what I can afford or have space for. I have cases of toilet paper, canned goods, and huge quantities of beans, rice, and pasta, and other dry goods, including flour and yeast. I’m just one person and I already had way more than needed but that’s wise to a point. This has exceeded that point but I get this fear that this will continue for a long time and I’ll need supplies for myself and potentially my family—who would probably be desperate to rely on me to provide food, not realistic. I’m a little worried about some things I’ve ordered, because I rarely eat those things (sardines), and based on their availability they aren’t popular items. 
 

Anybody else driven to compulsively buy supplies now?  I’m apparently good at finding things in a shortage, at least random things, but I can’t stop. 
 

 

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On 3/26/2020 at 8:30 AM, sugarsugar said:

Yes, apparently I am “that one” buying all that food and TP. I used to be able to tell myself I was basically a prepper, but now I’m just driven to get more stuff, beyond what I can afford or have space for. I have cases of toilet paper, canned goods, and huge quantities of beans, rice, and pasta, and other dry goods, including flour and yeast. I’m just one person and I already had way more than needed but that’s wise to a point. This has exceeded that point but I get this fear that this will continue for a long time and I’ll need supplies for myself and potentially my family—who would probably be desperate to rely on me to provide food, not realistic. I’m a little worried about some things I’ve ordered, because I rarely eat those things (sardines), and based on their availability they aren’t popular items. 
 

Anybody else driven to compulsively buy supplies now?  I’m apparently good at finding things in a shortage, at least random things, but I can’t stop. 
 

 

I understand what you are going through. Having just spent an embarrassingly high amount of money at the grocery store and getting 2 more big packages of TP. I pressured husband into letting me buy a million things to stock up. I’m just so worried. And like you, I always had a good stock of what I needed before all this. But it’s gotten worse. I need to dial back a lot. I’m sorry you are going through this. It’s hard to know what is needed and what is panic buying. I completely get that. You aren’t alone.

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Wow SugarSugar!  I completely understand.  I too think about relatives that might need help because I know they don’t prep properly.  But I’m pretty much at ease.  I’ve got ~9 months of food, cooking fuel, water, necessary supplies and defensive gear stored & current. I prep for myself (and the cats) and haven’t felt the urge pile on.

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10 hours ago, Dagr said:

My big problem is buying vintage HP calculators on eBay...crazy.

You remind me of a friend who has a serious Casio watch issue...

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I know sardines are good for you and all but I have stocked up on more than I normally would eat in years. I’ve been told to donate to a food bank if I have extra but honestly nothing feels extra. I already was prepared. This confirmed my beliefs in that plan. But it’s gone too far now. Or not—I’m still working, but if I got laid off I’d be extremely grateful to have been stocking up/prepping/hoarding. 

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Hey sugarsugar,  

This may be way off base, if so then ignore it and accept my apology.  It sounds like you might not have planned meals and may not have an inventory of what’s already on hand.  This is an incredibly easy situation to get into during your preps and it leads to a general anxiety and haphazard purchases.  
 

The way I got a handle on things was to build a spreadsheet that schedules 3 appropriate-breakfast-lunch-dinner-meals per day, per person for as long as you expect to need to bunker.  Be sure to include non-essential comfort foods...freeze dried fruits, sailor crackers with cheese...etc.  

Canned goods are great, but they have rotated.  For example most of my rotation is cycling Spam, canned black beans, rice, Bam Bread and some other limited shelf life stuff.  There are ready to purchase deep-storage rice, grains and beans...I haven’t taken advantage of those products.  These items go on the worksheet inventory.

Consider the amount of water needed for consumption, meal prep (in my case, re-hydrate the foods) and hygiene.  Add in cooking fuel, trustworthy stove(s). fire starting supplies, long burning candles, cigarette lighters in bulk, matches, Camp Suds, paper products, etc. Again, list these items on the inventory.

Once you build a balanced supply base these events (virus, terrorism, hurricanes, earthquakes) will not cause much acquisition stress at 

Dagr
 

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Dagr, you’re way more organized than I am. I don’t have a system but I was pretty fully prepared as to food and water plus some other items for emergency. But this is a different type emergency. It feels like food isn’t very available, also TP, and this could go on a long while—things that trigger my stocking up impulses. Meal planning only works to a point because I go off plan immediately. I should organize my supplies somehow. It’s disorganized now, at best. I’ve never been in a situation where I tried to buy groceries and many items are just sold out, so to compensate I’m getting tuna and you name it, I’ve got it. Plus I worry about getting laid off and losing income to buy needed items, so another reason to over prepare. 
 

Now, I do know there’s a difference in point of view. Some people think 1-2 weeks food is a huge supply and adequate. My mom has an extra couple cans of tuna, basically. Those people really consider me excessive anyway. Then there are degrees of preppers, and we should stay under the radar as to amounts we have, I believe. Then there’s compulsive stocking of sometimes random items, like I’m doing. Although I can probably justify most of it. 
 

Also I bought a few supplies in case I need to care for my very elderly mother. If she gets this, it’ll fall to me, so I did buy a few sick care items plus a couple cloth masks that will seem smart if I need them, excessive if I don’t. I know that if I need them it’ll take weeks to get them. Again, hoarder or prepper?  
 

For me, setting up my shelving units and unpacking items will probably come before any spreadsheets but I admire your system.   I’m sure now you’re glad you prepared. If I didn’t have cans of sardines stashed in my living room I’d be feeling better right now, too. 

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The bulk of my organization occurred during a major manic episode. I’ve got very strong hoarder tendencies that really roar when I’m unstable..it’s so financially terrible.  High volume, expensive taste and a lot of equipment redundancy.

So, I had been steadily stocking major amounts of food and supplies to be ready for anything, but my preps had no structure...just wall to wall supplies.  I really had no more room to accommodate items I was gathering so some (non-food) supplies were going to a temperature controlled storage unit.  I had some stability, stopped adding stuff and went on with my life.  

A pretty intense manic episode struck and this time I got into a no-sleep-several-day organization groove.  Using Excel I inventoried everything, planned for a wide variety of 3/day meals and made efforts to correct deficiencies.  That manic phase eventually went to hell and positive activity stopped.  But before before the episode had gotten out of control I had done an amazing amount of high quality and very detailed work.

That project was-is-has been incredibly useful but it certainly wasn’t accomplished without being manic.

Dagr

 

 

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Your manic sounds much like mine only no spreadsheets or organization. I’m prepared for natural or other disasters and have things like cooking devices I’ve never used but could. Not everything but most categories. So when an actual event is occurring, you’d think I could settle in and enjoy my preps, rather than buy more. But that’s not what’s happening and  wondering if I can chill and stop buying soon. I hope so. 

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I just panic bought $80 worth of mostly hand soap and hand sanitizer and toilet paper. It’s being delivered. Sometime between today and Saturday. If they don’t start the order soon I’m canceling because they will sell out for sure by early afternoon of that stuff. 

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Omg I'm panicking. If they don't start my delivery order soon I won't get any hand sanitizer or hand soap. I bravely took the toilet paper off my order because husband would be pissed. I have not showered in days and I don't want to drive to the store myself.

What the hell kind of timeframe is today through Saturday?! Omg!

I'm going to take a PRN zyprexa now I think and try to distract with the jigsaw puzzle. I've been pacing the kitchen for nearly an hour. Yikes. 

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I don’t quite understand, Chee. Did you buy from some local shop? If you need the stuff, let the order stand. You have a place in line now. They’ll fill your order when they get to you.

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6 minutes ago, Gearhead said:

I don’t quite understand, Chee. Did you buy from some local shop? If you need the stuff, let the order stand. You have a place in line now. They’ll fill your order when they get to you.

Well it's a delivery service. So regular customers could shop and could snatch up what I want in my order before my delivery person gets around to shopping for my items. The person who "shops" for me and delivers is independent of the grocery store. They are their own company. So fees and tip was $12 ish alone. Kind of like those food delivery service people who go to restaurants and bring the food from restaurant to your house yet they don't work for the restaurant. 

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Cheese -

It may help to try to shift from an anticipatory/anxious state of mind that says "I might not get the things" to a problem-solving state of mind that says "What can I do without those things?" If you feel yourself panicky, go ahead and think, "Okay, if the worst happened and he arrives at my door without hand sanitizer or hand soap:

1) Would I drop dead on the spot? (No.)

2) Would I be mortally wounded? (No.)

3) Would my life change forever? (Highly unlikely.)

4) Would I be inconvenienced? (Possibly.)

By the time you get to (4), you have begun to put the situation into proper perspective, and discover that it is a manageable problem because, in fact, it is simply an inconvenience. So, solve the problem - how do you get around the fact that you have no hand sanitizer or hand soap?

You find a bar of regular soap. That will do very nicely. Wash your hands thoroughly for at least 20 seconds. Lacking a bar of soap, two or three drops of your dishwashing liquid will suffice. The goal is sterilized hands, not having a specific sterilizing fluid. Once your hands are clean, you're good to go, just don't run around petting infected tigers - you could end up at No. (2).

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Any kind of soap will work, shampoo as well, conditioner, body wash, shower gel, they might be marketing these things in all different ways but as far as the virus is concerned, soap is soap.

I would say, hoard on each trip, fine, but do not go to the supermarket unless you have less than 2 weeks supply of food left, because we should be going to the supermarket as little as possible, as few times as possible. as seldom as possible. People with cars should be able to go once a month, right? I don't know, I've never had a car.

They say to keep 2 weeks worth of food at home because if you get sick, if you even get a cold you aren't supposed to go to the supermarket for 2 weeks, just in case. And to keep some of the stuff you don't mind eating when you are sick.. rice... lemonade... chicken soup.. whatever specific stuff you know you can manage to eat when you have no appetite

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18 hours ago, Cerberus said:

Cheese -

It may help to try to shift from an anticipatory/anxious state of mind that says "I might not get the things" to a problem-solving state of mind that says "What can I do without those things?" If you feel yourself panicky, go ahead and think, "Okay, if the worst happened and he arrives at my door without hand sanitizer or hand soap:

1) Would I drop dead on the spot? (No.)

2) Would I be mortally wounded? (No.)

3) Would my life change forever? (Highly unlikely.)

4) Would I be inconvenienced? (Possibly.)

By the time you get to (4), you have begun to put the situation into proper perspective, and discover that it is a manageable problem because, in fact, it is simply an inconvenience. So, solve the problem - how do you get around the fact that you have no hand sanitizer or hand soap?

You find a bar of regular soap. That will do very nicely. Wash your hands thoroughly for at least 20 seconds. Lacking a bar of soap, two or three drops of your dishwashing liquid will suffice. The goal is sterilized hands, not having a specific sterilizing fluid. Once your hands are clean, you're good to go, just don't run around petting infected tigers - you could end up at No. (2).

Oh wonderful @Cerberus. Your wisdom and wit and good old common sense have calmed me down and I canceled my order that I overbought on.

I bought some dish soap that was much cheaper from a different store that says it can be used as hand soap as well. I bought just enough to get free shipping (not much $), so I didn’t over buy either.

I have enough for a while and I have hand sanitizer two little bottles that I’ll only use for emergencies I guess. I won’t drop dead, nor be mortally wounded, nor will my life change forever, I just might be a little inconvenienced/annoyed. And I’ll avoid tigers, for real! I promise!

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1 hour ago, Antecedent said:

Any kind of soap will work, shampoo as well, conditioner, body wash, shower gel, they might be marketing these things in all different ways but as far as the virus is concerned, soap is soap.

I would say, hoard on each trip, fine, but do not go to the supermarket unless you have less than 2 weeks supply of food left, because we should be going to the supermarket as little as possible, as few times as possible. as seldom as possible. People with cars should be able to go once a month, right? I don't know, I've never had a car.

They say to keep 2 weeks worth of food at home because if you get sick, if you even get a cold you aren't supposed to go to the supermarket for 2 weeks, just in case. And to keep some of the stuff you don't mind eating when you are sick.. rice... lemonade... chicken soup.. whatever specific stuff you know you can manage to eat when you have no appetite

Thanks A. You are so right and have calmed me too. I canceled my panic order.

I do online order pick up. So I order what I need online then we drive to the store at our time slot and then they bring the groceries out and load them in our vehicle. 

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That's excellent, I wish we could do that! This is the first time in my life I've ever wanted a car.. well, maybe when i was a teenager

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I read a news article saying that trash collectors are reporting a rise in food waste, people throwing out large quantities of unopened food... I know anxiety takes the reins sometimes, but as far as we can, let's hoard non-perishables only!!! People gave out bloody stink about toilet paper but none of that toilet paper will go to waste.

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